o_teunico Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 In this situation a mid-axle and front little wheels, like in Bill´s 6x6, will become very handy! Notice also buggy #38 with lambo-doors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 In this situation a mid-axle and front little wheels, like in Bill´s 6x6, will become very handy!Notice also buggy #38 with lambo-doors! Gee, and my LandRover club reckon I prepare vicious vehicle damaging trials courses! A company over here many year ago built one or two LandRover based so called 'Monster Trucks' with a 10'' suspension lift and the usual huge tyres.They rotatated the diffs vertically and fitted 90 degree drive 2:1 agricultural slasher gearboxes to the pinion housings. These were quite impractical and virtually unusable vehicles, what with Rover diffs and 10 spline halfshafts, and IMO were built for promotional purposes to advertise the companies engineering incompetance. Glad to hear you are enjoying your hard earned retirement Mr Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Instead of building your own, you now have the option of buying a new 6x6.... Minus the teak and chrome of course, and also the price might be an obstacle... http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz/g-class/first-drives/mercedes-benz-g63-amg-6x6-first-drive-review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Nice Merc, but certainly the price will be an obstacle. I like the portals and CTIS. I have never seen anything similar out of a factory and avalible at a franchised dealer. It looks more like a SEMA thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 That merc is a little bit more than special, wonder if it will be homologated for Europe? Nice concept using front radius arms and panhards to achieve the suspension set up but the prop between center and rear axle looked way too flimsy for those tyres and 560lbs of torque!!! Price tag? If you have to ask then you can't afford it type of thing I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Price tag? If you have to ask then you can't afford it type of thing I suppose Dubai number plate says it all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 There's a company in Germany selling the portals, but the price is more than the G-Wagen they go under! There's G-Wagen camper conversions running them, yours for only $100,000+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Price tag? If you have to ask then you can't afford it type of thing I suppose €350000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 In this situation a mid-axle and front little wheels, like in Bill´s 6x6, will become very handy! Also wheelbase makes quite a difference in that event. The poor old Patrols were just the wrong size for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Video here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It would be cool if the portal hubs are eventually specified for the Australian army 6x6's. They appear to be applied to the standarg G wagon axles with a third kingpin added. Radius arm non load sharing suspension allround don't really appeal to me though, so I think I'll wait a couple of years until they develop the vehicle a bit more before placing my order. I thought the German Tibus bolt on portal kits for G wagons, LandRovers etc, at around $10,000 Australian for a set of 4 was quite reasonable for what you get. That would be pocket money when added to the price of a new LandCruiser or Nissan Patrol etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Like these ones? http://www.killeraxles.com/instructions_e.html 7500 euro and only in the next county from me but I would never get my car through the MOT with them fitted!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Like these ones?http://www.killeraxles.com/instructions_e.html 7500 euro and only in the next county from me but I would never get my car through the MOT with them fitted!!! They used to offer them in 4'' drop 1.16:1 ratio and 5'' drop 1.6:1 ratio. Unfortunately they no longer offer the latter option, and IMO the 1.16 ratio doesn't do a great deal to relieve the strain on poor old Rover type diffs when running larger tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 IIRC the 1.6 drop boxes needed larger than standard LR wheels so were dropped, quite a ratio change as well, can imagine things screaming on the motorway without diff-ratio swap or a higher ratio LT230. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Topic on bespoke portal axles here: http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=23081 On the subject of weight, standard Volvo front axle weighs 150kg, the rear 130kg, not too chunky really, and a disc conversion lightens it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 How much weight for a standard coiler axle? And for Unimog 404? Those from tne Mog aren´t too wide for a Landy, just 2cm (about 3/4") more than a Discovery with offset wheels ans spacers. This Disco has a 1610mm track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Found this info in another forum option is 404 Mog axles, but at 350kg for the front and 250kg for the rear, they're a bit heavy. Huge unsprung weight isn't good for handling. Have not found the weight of Rover ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomark10 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 By far the best solution for minimal unsprung weight is independent suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Do you remember 6x6 Roadster Landy? IT´S BEEING BUILT! Well, not in 6x6 form, but as a two axle "off roadster". 100.000€, V8 engine, V16 option (two V8s joined at crankshaft) and also avalible with V12 supercharged RollsRoyce 1500HP WWII airplane engine An article (in spanish) with pics http://www.el4x4.com/spa/item/ART10041.html Have a search for Bell Aurens Longnose and will find more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 The only question one needs to ask about the Long Nose is, WHY???. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 That weight info on the mog portals are not correct. AFAIK its about 240kgs for the front and 200kgs for the rear. As long as we're talking 404's that is. But these are plenty strong for most applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomark10 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 http://www.portalrover.co.uk/ they have a 6x6 defender, just thought ide post it up as it has a few pics of the drive train on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Just buy a new G-Wagen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 PortalRover seems to use the expensive Ashcroft/Foley drop box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Like this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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