redneck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Tried to buy a V belt today for my 200tdi install, I need a longer one than standard because of the way I routed the intercooler pipes. You may think its easy, you can get them anywhere.......cant you? Try Halfrauds, nope don't stock them any more.....no problem Partco are around the corner, "sorry sir, we only do longer ones"...... O.K I'll try the local motor factors, "we can order you one sir"...........aaaaggggghhhhhh. Maybe I'll give Eurocarparts a try "what is your vehicle registration sir" me "I want want a non standard size", I try to explain, "we need your vehicle registration sir"...........dont bother. Obviously Kent is one of those backwater counties where vehicles are few and far between. So I go online and order one from a "bearing" supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You should just be able to get one at a specific length and profile. The part numbers tell you the length after all, so if you wanted a 1050mm belt you'd just ask them to look in their Gates/Dayco/etc. book for one that long and in the right v profile. What's wrong with the motor factors ordering you one? You'd have to wait for an online delivery anyway after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The code on a serpentine belt describes the number of grooves, profile and its length - something like 6PK17 is a 6 groove belt with a PK profile, 1700mm long. Not sure if the same thing works for plain V belts though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I chose the online option because I will get what I want. The motor factors or toy shop as they should be called are more interested in selling the latest shiny stick on doodad than actually getting an actual repair part, I wanted a number plate a few weeks ago from them, "sorry sir we haven't got the plates and don't know when we will get any" to ask for 28.5" AX section V belt would have melted his brain. On line next day delivery to my door......no contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 it is an A101050 Vee belt is an A section, 10mm wide belt thats 1050mm long from 1 end to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovernut Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 A few years ago you could buy 'V' belts from Bearing suppliers like Bearing Services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Bearing suppliers are still the place to go! Redhill bearings have a big selection off the shelf, as do Apollo Bearings in Crawley and Connect2 in Pullborough - local to me, but they will mail order. I suspect if you talk to some local bearing suppliers they will keep stock. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Or agricultural engineers, you gotta marvel the massive selections of belts they got in them, I used to pop into Does for odds and sodds like "V" belts and such as they would always have something to suit. Thurlow Nunns was good in Melton too but Massey red was too much for my Deere loving eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspark Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 My experience today is no one (or very few at least) actually know what they are selling... A professional in his / her field should be able to tell you which vehicles have similar belts of lengths in your range to try. too many people box shifting today... hence I try to order by part number only (idiot proof), given most I deal with don't actually know their product at all! A person with an interest in their specialism should tell you what fits what and how to make it work with what they have available or be able to refer you to a man who can (most an't even do the latter). Don't know why soooooo many people today just don't seem to be enthused by their profession. FFS I can quote part numbers from memory, and yet someone will still ask for a registration number which isn't much help if you've converted from drums to discs for example if you're after a set of pads or discs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymorris Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 My experience today is no one (or very few at least) actually know what they are selling... A professional in his / her field should be able to tell you which vehicles have similar belts of lengths in your range to try. too many people box shifting today... hence I try to order by part number only (idiot proof), given most I deal with don't actually know their product at all! A person with an interest in their specialism should tell you what fits what and how to make it work with what they have available or be able to refer you to a man who can (most an't even do the latter). Don't know why soooooo many people today just don't seem to be enthused by their profession. I really couldn't agree more , when I go to my local agricultural engineers shop I'll deliberately hang about browsing so I can get served by mr helpful not mr I couldn't give a firk !I really can't understand any employer tolerating unhelpful staff , they are after all ambassador's for your business ! Anyway back on subject , I normally get v belts for my local bearing shop , they've got a belt measuring thingy and usually fix me up , or my local agricultural engineers shop Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Don't agree at all, there are so many different makes and models of vehicles on the road today it's impossible for someone to remember every detail off the top of their head. A vehicle specific garage stands a better chance, but one encompassing all makes has no chance. Besides, hardly any cars use A section belts now. Waste of time going to a vehicle parts place for anything non standard, go straight to an engineering source for something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Eriks keep a full selection of belts, just go in and get what you want. Fenners used to also but have been absorbed into another company now I think - May be Ericks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Landy alternator/water pump belts are not A section, thats 1/2" wide and we require 3/8" wide which AFAIK is a Z section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Online, quick and easy. http://www.beltingonline.com/vee-and-wedge-belts-213/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 My experience today is no one (or very few at least) actually know what they are selling... A professional in his / her field should be able to tell you which vehicles have similar belts of lengths in your range to try. too many people box shifting today... hence I try to order by part number only (idiot proof), given most I deal with don't actually know their product at all! A person with an interest in their specialism should tell you what fits what and how to make it work with what they have available or be able to refer you to a man who can (most an't even do the latter). Don't know why soooooo many people today just don't seem to be enthused by their profession. FFS I can quote part numbers from memory, and yet someone will still ask for a registration number which isn't much help if you've converted from drums to discs for example if you're after a set of pads or discs Part numbers , you would think, are infallible? I beg to differ! A few years ago I ordered a new wiper motor cover from the main stealers in Exeter using the correct part number, even got them to read it back to me. About a week later the phone rings and I'm told to come and get it. Turned up in my work clothes (chest waders and a buoyancy aid) and trundled through the very posh display area to the parts section. I knew the guy behind the counter, chucks credit card at him and he said he would get the guys to pit it in my truck whilst I had a coffee. Now that should have set my alarm bells ringing, but it had been a long hot day and it was kinda unpleasant dressed in 4mm neoprene.... Never mind a few minutes later he comes back and mutters the immortal words "err, Jeff, your credit card has been declined, this transaction would take you way over your credit limit", "wadya mean, just cleared the bloody balance last week and haven't used it, there's about £4k on the bugger" By now I'm panicking, as it been cloned? Has the missus been on the internet ? have I upset Barclaycard again? Nope Twas much easier than that, at the time a Landrover, new TD5 engine, was circa £7.5k, the internal parts number for an engine and a wiper motor cover differed by one digit..... Guess what they'd ordered? I should have guessed when he said the he'd get the lads to put it in the truck........ Eventually got the wiper motor cover for nowt to make up for the shock, even offered to keep the engine if they'd charge me the £25 or so the wiper motor cover cost, but sadly they declined. So, even part numbers are not totally reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Ah, but whose fault was that ? I also think they are a different profile from A section, with a different angle V. I worked for a long time at the agricultural merchant mentioned by Nigel W, and we always used to helping people out with oddball stuff they could not get anywhere else, and it IS a bugbear of modern shopping when you go into a specialist shop and you know more than they do........................ Bearing stockist as people have said is usually the answer, but i doubt if even they stock all sizes nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Oh the irony, I've been moaning about the suppliers, but I cant even get the width right. I did order the right width just got it wrong on here. And to those who are quoting part no's at me, I need a non standard length belt hence the reason for my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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