Sharkdisco Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hello I'm a newbie to the site and a newbie to the landrover defender. Ive had toyota hilux a for around 3 years and wanting to move to the dark side. Very close to me a defender has come up for sale here's the speck and whats been done etc.... Two seater truck version 1991, New Discs New Pads, New Calipers, all new break pipe front to back, New rear Ball Joint , Disco 24 spline axels, Td5 Gear Box and Transfer Box, 2 inch Body Lift , Detachable Steering Wheel, Raptor Dash with Oil Temp , Rev Counter, Boost Gauges, Oil Pressure Gauges, and CB , and Stereo, Auxiliary Webasto Night Heater , Warn M8274 Winch, 300Tdi Disco Engine, Wading Kit, Cubby Box, Steering Guard, Roof Spots, Rear Working Lights, Rear Dislocation Cones , Insta Turbo Tyres , Roll Cage, SafeTpedal Lock, Light Guards Front and Back, Home Made Snorkel, Wires from wing tops to top of roll cage to deflect tree branches, Auxiliary Battery in tub with split charger, Bespoke Gear Box Tunnel, £3000, I test drove it I'm 6ft5 yes a little small on space but everything seemed okay, 150k on the engine, however I tried the hi and low and soon as I went to change gear it always popped out so this made me nervous. I'm still tempted but was wanting to hear people's opinion. Sorry for the long message but hopefully someone can shine some good or bad light pleeeeease. Thanks in advance for any comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkdisco Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Got the year waaaaaay wrong its 1975 sorrieeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Sounds like a can of worms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_90 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What part of it is a 1975? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Try to get someone who knows LR's to take a look for you. As described it can't be a real 1975 vehicle and you +could+ be buying into a bit of hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 1975 in standard trim would make it a Series 3 on leaf springs. Walk away and find yourself a decent standard truck that hasn't been messed around with and comes with a known history. Ignore the bling and gizmo's and concentrate on a decent base vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Shouldn't. Walk away, don't look back. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 No, just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 1975 Defender?? Someone's having a laugh. Best thing to do is walk away now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkdisco Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Thanks so much for your help guys I just asked what do you tell insurance and replied with landrover 1975 300tdi?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Personally I would be looking to buy a good standard 94-98 300tdi 90 with no modifications or chequerplate. I'd certainly be avoiding disco engine conversions, 2" lifts and the like unless you want a project putting it all right. I occasionally look on ebay at cheap defenders just to see how badly people will bodge in a disco engine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Thanks so much for your help guys I just asked what do you tell insurance and replied with landrover 1975 300tdi?? 300tdI wasn't even designed until 1998...ish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Maybe it had a flux capacitor ...... Although hitting 88 mph can be a issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 If you were to buy it and then found yourself in a VOSA/DVLA check at best you would be looking at reregistering and IVA at worst you lose the truck. I can't believe there is still so many of these around. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkdisco Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's all new to me such a shame as it drives well fells well, but everything and everyone is saying no but the devil inside says yes haha, need to act sensible and I'll keep a look out on the for sale forum and see whats on offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 No, just no!!! That is a pretty asking price for sure but the only other sure thing is that you will get a ton of grief with it in the event of DVLA/VOSA, oh and it is at that golden 40 now so must be attractive as a "free tax" car, just wait for the day when that comes in and it gets a points analysis to verify it's status, big can of worms to be left well and truly alone if you want an easy life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 300tdI wasn't even designed until 1998...ish... Or even 94...can't add up late at night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkdisco Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Sums me up perfect I'm owt for a easy life tbf so that without a doubt settles it. I'll keep a eye on here then for some hopefully more legit 90's much appreciated guys for all your responses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkdisco Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Here's the truck anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 You know, there is actually the "OTHER" option? Buy it and take it straight for an SVA/IVA and to hell and high water with the original documents, it looks to be in order and potentially it might be just what you are after, look at the equipment list, roll cage(not cheap), winch(not cheap) wheels and tyres(not cheap), if you buy a std 90 then kit it out it might cost you a heck of a lot more!!! Obviously, this depends on whether you actually want a challenge truck over a more than capable shopping trolley Having thought about it a little this morning I personally would go down the IVA/SVA route and buy it if it were me in hind sight, and seeing the pics makes that idea very appealing now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Its a Series rear crossmember, so it's been converted to coils then. That means it's lost 5 of the avliable 13 points, needing 8 to retain it's ID. Since we know the axles are disco not series, and the engine is not the original, there's no way it can be a legal conversion UNLESS it's from before 19-something-I've-forgotten-the-date-again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 But... What has happened to the original vehicle I.D.? Why has the plate been changed? Could be a few reasons but I'd want to be very sure it isn't someone's pride & joy that has been nicked & had the plates fitted from a scrapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Its a Series rear crossmember, so it's been converted to coils then. That means it's lost 5 of the avliable 13 points, needing 8 to retain it's ID. Since we know the axles are disco not series, and the engine is not the original, there's no way it can be a legal conversion UNLESS it's from before 19-something-I've-forgotten-the-date-again I'm not 100% convinced on this. Nothing on any DVLA or VOSA site defines what these things are. Suspension is not just the spring, we all know that well on here, but we still ignore it or forget. Think about it, what does IRS or IFS stand for? Independent SUSPENSION. A Series Land Rover and a Defender both fundamentally use the same live axle suspension systems. And both use upright oil/gas filled shocks mounted in the same fashion. The only actual change to the suspension is the spring type. So the spring type has changed, but has the suspension? Let's not forget either that the axles are fundamentally the same also and even have interchangeable parts. The biggest difference being longer axle tubes and different internal seals. For instance, there is no reason why you couldn't fit coil springs to the original chassis and axles by simple welding in perches/seats for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Somewhere I've seen it state that the bits must be 'of the original specification', which means leaves not coils Its still 'major modifications' to the chassis to fit the coil perches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_s Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 as soon as you start welding new bits onto the chassis it becomes modified, and you *could* lose your 5 points, it would depend on the person doing the checking and their interpretation of the rules when i was reading up on this stuff a while ago i decided that i'd lose points on anything that wasnt a bolt-on replacement. so changing the axles on my series to coiler axles but using leaf springs would mean cutting and welding brackets on the axle case, so that would lose points. but upgrading my drum brakes to the larger 11" drums which was just a nut and bolt change was OK. the same for fitting parabolic leaf springs, they just bolt on with no mods needed, so the suspension part stays the same. the engine i'm not sure on. it's still an inline, 4 cylinder diesel of similar capacity (less than 10% difference). it's quite clear that the 200 tdi descends from the 2.25 engines, the blocks are remarkably similar. i assume i've lost the points there though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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