Bish66 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I have a 1985 ex-military 110 that I use regularly and have just fitted new suspension supplied by PA Blanchard. I fitted HD springs - which I think was a mistake as the ride is now very harsh and the front seems to be much higher than before. I hardly ever carry anything of significant weight and most of the time it is me by myself with nothing in the rear - plus its a softop so there is NO weight at the back. I really want to improve the ride quality by fitting slightly softer springs and am getting confused, very easy with me! Can somebody please tell me what springs I need to fit front and rear and part numbers if at all possible??? Thanks Bish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Fit station wagon springs all round. They are much more sociable than the van / utility ones. http://www.red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html Front: NRC8044 / NRC8045Rear: NRC6388 / NRC7000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 for the rear I changed from standard height HD to CSW progressive springs and there difference was amazing! RKB101111 This might help... or confuse you even more... but hey http://www.red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish66 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Gentlemen thank you so much! On order already!! Bish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish66 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just noted that NRC6388 / NRC7000 require a load leveller. I dont think my 110 has one of these, which would you suggest otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just noted that NRC6388 / NRC7000 require a load leveller. I dont think my 110 has one of these, which would you suggest otherwise. these are far to soft to use without the load leveller strut, use these instead RKB101111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Purple/brown (RKB101111) work very well on the rear of my 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 those are Td5 onwards rear springs, no Boge load leveller strut on those models, it was ditched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 You can use the soft springs, but if you load the car up too much it will sink and sit on the bump stops. The leveller strut,when working, would pump the suspension back up as you drove. However a lot of them packed up and didn't work! As above Land Rover did away with the system and used progressive springs instead, though they can give a bit of an 'arse up' appearance when unloaded I think. An alternative is the earlier soft springs but with air bags to help with heavy loads instead of the old leveller strut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Landy Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Someone had mentioned using the RR springs and said he was happy with the results. My 3 door 110 has HD springs too installed by the previous owner with a 4 " lift kit,... Those springs have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodumatau Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I also find reducing tyre pressure helps greatly if you are not loaded, this requires management however, if you want to load up you first need to up the pressure. Nothing worse than driving around at the silly pressures LR recommends which you only need when your GVM is 3500 kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Someone had mentioned using the RR springs and said he was happy with the results. My 3 door 110 has HD springs too installed by the previous owner with a 4 " lift kit,... Those springs have to go. Aren't RR springs too small for the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Landy Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Aren't RR springs too small for the rear? Not according to the post, he even pulled up a spec sheet with all the springs and applications, will see if I can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Landy Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Quote from the post "NRC 4304 Fitted all round on my 90, nice smooth rideCheap as chips, less than £50 the set" http://rovers.red90.ca/springinfo.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sandy Landy, a 110 (barge) uses a larger diameter spring on the rear suspension than a 90, Discovery or Range Rover. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris200100 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 They fit a 90 but not a 110. The 110 has bigger springs. The purple/brown springs are now the new spec HD springs. If you want a better ride go with the latest spec CSW springs. Nrc8045 Yellow/yellow fronts both sides ( they are triple progressive rate ) BKB500300 green/white/white rear both sides (there are dual rate progressive rate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoDino Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Get the front rubber tower isolation items...OEM items, should be 8 pounds each in cost...they isolate GREAT...rear ones are even cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤ ditto what Dino said. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 these are far to soft to use without the load leveller strut, use these instead RKB101111 Agree with Ralph here. The original suggestion was for springs with the self leveller. These are way too soft if you don't have a leveller. I replaced mine, and removed the leveller with rkb101111 like Ralph and it is fine with them, sits well and handles empty and full well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I have the gwyn Lewis old man emu setup which gives a very nice drive on my 110, worth looking into..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Just noted that NRC6388 / NRC7000 require a load leveller. I dont think my 110 has one of these, which would you suggest otherwise. I ran these on my 110 with no load leveller. It was lovely. Comfortable on road, and loads of travel off road. Fine if you're not regularly chucking half a ton of sand in the back, but you said you didn't often carry heavy loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Landy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 They fit a 90 but not a 110. The 110 has bigger springs. The purple/brown springs are now the new spec HD springs. If you want a better ride go with the latest spec CSW springs. Nrc8045 Yellow/yellow fronts both sides ( they are triple progressive rate ) BKB500300 green/white/white rear both sides (there are dual rate progressive rate) You are right Chris, forgot that he was talking about a 90 which is lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Landy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 So there are two suggestions. Chris suggested Nrc8045 Yellow/yellow fronts both sides ( they are triple progressive rate ) BKB500300 green/white/white rear both sides (there are dual rate progressive rate) Matt and Old Hand suggested the RKB101111 Dino advise to use the front rubber tower isolation OEM items. I prefer a slight compromise, soft enough to not rattle your teeth fillings out but firm enough to take the odd load and handle corners a bit better than full soft still. Based on what Matt and Old hand suggested the RKB101111 does this, however what Chris suggested makes sense too. I think it will be better to have fixed springs for the front and progressive for the rear since the probability of extra weight being added will happen at the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish66 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Get the front rubber tower isolation items...OEM items, should be 8 pounds each in cost...they isolate GREAT...rear ones are even cheaper! Do you have the pat numbers for these to hand by any chance??? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Does anyone know the difference in rate between the RBK500300 and the RBK101111? I have the RKB101111 rear, and std front (300tdi), and it is still quite firm, not ridiculous but I wouldn't mind it softer. Incidentally I have noticed a ride improvement when I had to renew the rear bottom shock bushings, (they are now superpro) I think they take a bit of punishment at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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