V8 Freak Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 HI all, I had a classic fail yesterday when trying to do some basic work on the truck and couldn't even get the wheel off... Although not originally torqued above standard, the wheels have been on for best part of a year now without need to come off (Yes.. amazing for a Land Rover) so I'm guessing there is some corrosion between the locking nut and wheel. (The 4 standard nuts cracked loose but were tough to start) The issues in pictures.... I found a suitable sized bearing carrier, did some surgery and hammered the carrier over the locking nut key... (I may do this from new for the replacement key I've ordered....) To ensure I was applying only turning force as far as I could, I put a piece of scaffold under the socket and adjusted the truck height on the ramp to support the socket. Tried again... Thought I'd had a magic moment but.... It span.... Wheel nut still in place !! (And looking a little worse for wear.) I've got a week before the replacement key arrives and I'm able to work on the truck again... I've been adding penetrating fluid and will do so for all wheel nuts until next weekend. Are there any suggestions / tried and trusted methods anyone on here would recommend me to try next weekend?? I'm reluctant to try heat as they are alloys and although shabby, do have some paint on them in places. Thanks in advance for your guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialbikejames Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Smash a suitably sized (ie, very tight fitting) socket on over the nut and undo. Had to do this ages ago and it worked, I used some random old imperial socket but I can't remember the size. I assume you put a couple of the other wheel nuts back on to take the weight of the wheel off the stuck one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 All nuts were tight while trying to remove as the truck was on the deck. I’ll root out my old imperial socket set and see if it has a suitable sacrificial socket... Just looked at my Irwin extractors. Way too small.... Any more suggestions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 there are wheel nut extractors these for example http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/sockets-accessories/laser-locking-wheel-nut-remover but a old socket as suggested should work. have you got spare wheel nuts to replace the trashed one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Irwin was going to be my suggestion too. I don’t know if they make them any bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Buy a sacrificial socket from Halfords or wherever for a couple of quid and hammer it on. Or drive it to a half decent tyre place as they deal with this sort of thing a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Weld on a 1/2 inch extension bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I was going to suggest a good hot weld of a nut onto it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Chisel, in the divot, very large hammer, should shift it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Leave the Defender on the street overnight and the Pikeys will have that nut off for you by the morning. They will most likely leave the wheel when they see the state of it, and steal the Defender instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychoS Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 18 hours ago, Gazzar said: Weld on a 1/2 inch extension bar? That is what I would recommend as well. Weld a nut onto the stuck bolt. You apply the weld on the inside of the nut (where the threads are) The heat from welding will help to loosen the bolt and will give you something to apply plenty of torque to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Tyre fitters & get them to use their locking wheel nut remover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Good news. Thanks to your replies, I hammered on a snug fitting 24mm Halfords Advanced socket. All went well and with a little more penetration fluid and some pushing and pulling on the breaker bar, it came off. Wondering if I would need another socket, I forced a bolt into the nut, clamped it tight in a vice and hammered it free. Socket looks servcable! Result! Thanks for all the replies and so glad I didn’t need to get to welding near the alloy wheel. Neil 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender dinky Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Glad your sorted, it happened to me but on a Peugeot I cut a 4inch nail down and slot them in the groove of the nut and just used normal socket it worked fine, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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