Laptom Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 And? How is this project evolving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 Very slowly... I've put the axles back together and installed the manual pedal box. Then other things got in the way again. As for the previous question( which I missed at the time), the rockers are Yella Terra roller rockers I got from V8 tuner. The heads are big valve 'Dakar' type (or so I'm told). They were on my previous P38, and well worth saving/recommissioning after the fire. I really should crack on, I've had most of the parts for about a year now. 😞 Filip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 That's a lot of weight reduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Well, @Escape does like saving weight. But this might be pushing it a bit We've set a deadline, so let's hope this one doesn't whoosh by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 A year later, the deadline passed by, as did several others, not even a woosh... Lockdown and working from home should have given me plenty of time, but somehow not much went into the P38 project... There has been some progress, mainly accumulating more parts. 😛 The chassis has been built up to a rolling state, with Ashcroft airlockers, Arnott GEN III airbags and adjustable Terrafirma dampers. The body has been put back on, but only to free the 2-poster (for another P38 body off). We'll take the body off again to put in the engine and gearbox. The gearbox is on the bench, half assembled. I kinda chickened out when it came to pressing in the bearings and shim everything, with a convenient excuse of lots of other work going on... One of the other projects was to swap the Bosch 4.6 from my RHD parts car that had been put to daily duty when the 4.0 manual overheated into that car to get it on the road again. I need the intake parts from the Bosch to finish the 5.0, which is why I bought it in the first place. But the engine did so well, it seemed a shame to just put it in storage. So I converted it from Bosch to GEMS and installed it in my old P38 manual. With a lot of help from @elbekko and other friends, couldn't have done it without them. As usual, not many photos taken... Yesterday was the first real test drive, out to pick up tires and other parts that would never fit the Lotus. Such a pleasant surprise! We knew the engine was very healthy, with a fresh chain and hi torque cam, combined with the directness of the manual, it feels very strong and lively. So much so, I've decided to spend some more time sorting out the rest of the car, after almost 2 years of neglect. While this might cause further delay for the 'real' P38 project, it does help to get me motivated. Knowing the next one will be even better/stronger and have all the tricks I want should get me started. Filip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Looking forward to more updates of either P38 Filip! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P38 Paul Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 How about some photos Filip 📸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 12:07 PM, P38 Paul said: How about some photos Filip 📸 I checked with Ben and Kristina, apparently we were all too busy to take photos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P38 Paul Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 9:09 AM, Escape said: I checked with Ben and Kristina, apparently we were all too busy to take photos... Nothing to do with being under the thumb then eh Filip . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Some more progress, be it on a different P38. Thought I'd share anyway, if just to prove I'm keeping busy. 😉 Some time ago I recovered a non-running P38 diesel that had been sitting for about 6 years. We quickly had it running again by replacing the fuel pump in the tank. A quick clean revealed both the bodywork and interior were in very good condition, despite sitting under the trees for so long. So we decided to sell it rather than break it for parts. A buyer was found, but then the nightmare started: the previous owner didn't find the paperwork (probably didn't really bother looking, despite my insistence and willingness to pay). We entertained the idea to find a different set of papers but that didn't work out either. So I had to cancel the sale. Some time later I could use a good engine to get another P38 diesel back on the road (really, I don't like those, but somehow always end up with them). So the engine was taken out, converted to automatic and allowed the other car to run again. Incidentally, that car went to the same guy that had wanted to buy the other Range Rover. Shortly after that, I was offered a partly stripped P38 (again, diesel...). Mechanically complete (apart from the front axle), bodywork in poor shape and partly dismantled, interior mostly stripped. It was a good deal with a spare non-running engine thrown in, but I was hesitant to add even more diesel parts to our stock. And then it struck me: I could reuse the chassis/drivetrain and of course paperwork for the good body that was still sitting in the yard. So off came the donor body, to be stripped further and weighed in. The good body was put on the 2-poster, the chassis stripped and weighed in, as was the non-running engine after removal of all ancillaries etc. All in an amazing 1.5 days, thanks to some great help. Now for the hard part: the donor chassis/drivetrain was '99, the body '96. So different wiring, brakepipe layout, engine management etc. A bit more work then expected... Progress slowed a bit and attention shifted to different projects, like the V8 engine swap that resulted in a great running manual 4.6 P38. 😎 This week we got to it again: the wiring was matched, brakepipes rerouted and the engine loom and ECU replaced by that of the spare engine. First attempts resulted in failure, no fuel was getting to the engine. Having had my share of problems with FIP lately, I nearly lost hope. Not wanting to give up without a fight, I set about tracing the wiring loom and found a blown fuse for the ECU. Excellent, replace it and try again. No luck, same fuse blown. Further digging guided by the diagrams in RAVE showed 2 connectors had been swapped: the timing solenoid and oil pressure switch. With all the different connectors used throughout the car, I can't understand why someone thought it a good idea to have these 2 connectors identical AND sitting side by side! Correct, try again, no more short, but no real life either. @elbekko suggested wiring the glow plugs as well ('99 having a different cable to '96 that I hadn't swapped yet) to have a better chance of actually firing. And that did the trick! 🙂 We immediately shut off again, only wanting to prove the engine would start. The rest of the afternoon was spent replumbing the enginebay and connecting everything from the body to the chassis. Something I had postponed until we were sure the engine would run. It's all but finished now, I'll change the oils, finish off the interior and expect to have her running by next weekend. Some valuable lessons learned for my project Phoenix as well, as that also involves parts from a '96 and a '99. Filip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Things happened! Gearbox is going back together (and yes, it is hard to find a free spot on the bench :D): 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Make sure you drop a small bit somewhere inside the casing so you have to take it all apart again - it's traditional! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 Well, we didn't drop anything inside the casing (as far as we know anyway), but we did need to take it all apart again to remove a shim. There was too much preload on the main shaft, which meant it would only work in 4th gear and be very stiff in all others. So off with everything, remove the shim (and add the reverse splash shield I forgot about first time 'round) and put it all back together. Now it works as it should, and has been sitting on the bench wishfully looking at the transfer case that's just a few meters away. Maybe I should get them to meet up on valentine's day. 🙂 Just one picture, mainly to give big thanks to our good friend Wouter for all his patience and help. PS: the skidplate in the background is not for the Range Rover, it's not even Land Rover, but for a Fiat Panda 4x4 that's being prepped for a Scandinavion rallytour. Goes to show they come in all different sizes. 😎 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, Escape said: PS: the skidplate in the background is not for the Range Rover, it's not even Land Rover, but for a Fiat Panda 4x4 that's being prepped for a Scandinavion rallytour. Goes to show they come in all different sizes. 😎 When I did my work experience when I was at school, I did it at Frogs Island 4x4 and they were prepping 3 2WD old pandas for some african rally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, landroversforever said: When I did my work experience when I was at school, I did it at Frogs Island 4x4 Ahhhhhh that might explain things Ross, did they take a long time completing things too lol regards Stephen Edited February 12, 2021 by Stellaghost 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRC200Tdi Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 6/14/2019 at 8:02 PM, Laptom said: Nice build! What kind of rockers are those? Are the heads itself also ported/flowed? Good that you saved the manual flywheel. I'm looking for them for years, but are impossible to find (without costing a kidney or liver). Tom On 6/15/2019 at 3:24 AM, FridgeFreezer said: Martin at www.rrpartsltd.co.uk might have one but postage would be killer. Sorry for replying to these old posts, but I happened to just came across this on craigslist: https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/d/los-angeles-triumph-tr8-35-buick-215/7310628599.html I have no idea if this is a good price or not, and of course postage for shipping from the US will be even more deadly... -jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 I got motivated to do some assembling yesterday, with the help of @elbekko. Transfer box (from a low mileage diesel, so should be in good shape), gearbox rebuilt by us as detailed earlier and selector housing (also from the diesel) have been put together. Next step is to put to clean the front cover and fit the new oil pump, so the engine can be closed up and sump fitted. Then we can take it off the engine stand to fit the clutch and arrange a romantic get together with the gearbox assembly. I'll try and get that done by the time the 2-poster becomes available again (currently occupied by an RRC that needs 'some' welding). With body off it will be easy to fit the engine/gearbox to the rolling chassis and new brake lines, fuel tank etc to the body. I don't look forward to trimming the wheel arches, but will need doing if I want to fit the Baja Claws. no pain, no gain. Somebody hinted Seven Sisters would make an excellent deadline, he's not wrong! There is the small matter of a Milemarker that needs a full rebuild as well, so it will take time. Filip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I hadn't appreciated how far back the gearstick is on a P38! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 I promised myself I wouldn't take on any more big projects until I got some of my own projects finished. And that does seem to work, I actually spent time sorting bits&bobs on Phoenix. The all-relay transfer case controller has evolved to mkII: it can now also select neutral, with a 3-position Carling instead of the standard switch. And then I continued wiring some of the custom elektrickery. Most important one being the bypass for the starter motor. The relay is now controlled directly from the ignition, not through the BECM. This means the engine will start and run with one simple pigtail, even if the BECM fails completely. Also did a first fit of the modified dash and started wiring all the switches. Very pleased with how it turned out. If everything works as planned should be a joy to use as well. I have another P38 to strip for parts, some that will be used for Phoenix. I'll try and get that done next week, then Phoenix can go back on the 2-poster and we'll fit engine and gearbox. There is another big project crazy idea for which we got the part a few weeks ago... I fear this will make project Phoenix seem like a walk in the park as it's very much uncharted territory. But it should be quite impressive if it hits the road! No risk of getting bored anytime soon. Fingers crossed I can continue to work from home for a bit longer (a couple of years should do). Filip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Alternative energy plans seem to be the order of the week,... I don't recognise it but I look forward to the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Blanco said: Alternative energy plans seem to be the order of the week,... I don't recognise it but I look forward to the thread I'm trying to be a bit secretive about this, but can't resist a teaser here and there. Elbekko's Range Rover that was used to transport the parts is probably the first and last Land Rover content, so if I start a build thread it will be on another forum. But happy to keep you guys up to speed. And there should be no lack of speed, it's a twin turbocharged flatplane V8 from a well known British brand. 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Escape said: I'm trying to be a bit secretive about this, but can't resist a teaser here and there. Elbekko's Range Rover that was used to transport the parts is probably the first and last Land Rover content, so if I start a build thread it will be on another forum. But happy to keep you guys up to speed. And there should be no lack of speed, it's a twin turbocharged flatplane V8 from a well known British brand. 😎 I'm sure its a candidate for the special builds section Filip! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, landroversforever said: I'm sure its a candidate for the special builds section Filip! My 3 wheel Reliant was allowed in so this has to be allowed 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 And there should be no lack of speed, it's a twin turbocharged flatplane V8 from a well known British brand. 😎 Lots of trouble usually serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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