oelbrenner Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 crazy idea ? ( probably ) fitting a LT230 to a P38 would require mounting the case upside down. for my application, I am doing an engine swap at the same time, so making brackets and divorcing the new engine from the transfer case anyway ( even if I stick with the borg warner ) other then the obvious case venting issue, anyone see any issues with proper lubrication, seals etc ? anything im missing ? ( probably ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'd turn it around and drive it through the PTO. Was just discussing this in another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oelbrenner Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, elbekko said: I'd turn it around and drive it through the PTO. Was just discussing this in another thread. is it the same shaft internally ? never thought of that honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnoK Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Why not just change the front diff to a Disco 2 one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 There's no room. And you'd have to change the rear too. It's not a Jeep, both axles are offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lo-fi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 9:39 PM, oelbrenner said: is it the same shaft internally ? never thought of that honestly. Yep, the hole in the middle of the input gear runs right through so the splines are accessible from either side. You'll just need a slightly longer input shaft, but as you're doing a divorced setup that won't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 There's already remote LT230 kits from various places - I'm sure I saw one recently from somewhere like Rakeway or Milners, same place was doing stubby front output housings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oelbrenner Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: There's already remote LT230 kits from various places - I'm sure I saw one recently from somewhere like Rakeway or Milners, same place was doing stubby front output housings. has anyone ordered from either vendor ? have requests out for pricing.. here are the links I found: http://www.milneroffroadracing.co.uk/4x4 transmission.htm http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page12.html thanks @FridgeFreezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oelbrenner Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 does anyone see any issues with lubrication ? I saw somewhere ( cant find link now ) where some custom application with dual boxes and one was vertical mounted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 17 hours ago, oelbrenner said: does anyone see any issues with lubrication ? I saw somewhere ( cant find link now ) where some custom application with dual boxes and one was vertical mounted ? Are you thinking of the escargo 8x8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, landroversforever said: escargo Wasn't that a fugly nissan? I think you mean the Esarco 8×8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Ooh look here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I've never used them but several people have told me Rakeway can be very variable for custom work in terms of timescales (both promised and actually delivered) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, daveturnbull said: Ooh look here I think that one is parked up at the Range Rover Specialist near Witney, Kingsley Cars. There was certainly a red one there when I popped my head in a couple of years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: I've never used them but several people have told me Rakeway can be very variable for custom work in terms of timescales (both promised and actually delivered) The intermediate propshaft bearing in Mouse was from Rakeway. 😉 Not cheap, but good service when it needed replacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 This pic shows the transfer box arrangement of the esargo: Definitely the second transfer box driven from the PTO side. Daan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Good to know it's been done. Now if only we could swap the front and rear output housings, so handbrake stays at the rear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Daan said: This pic shows the transfer box arrangement of the esargo: Definitely the second transfer box driven from the PTO side. Daan I like that, simple and clever, at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Escape said: Good to know it's been done. Now if only we could swap the front and rear output housings, so handbrake stays at the rear... The technical drawing says that it's faily different: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Handbrake is a secondary problem to solve though isn't it? There's plenty of ways to skin that cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Well, preferably it'd look stock... for MOT reasons in Belgium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oelbrenner Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 6:21 AM, landroversforever said: Are you thinking of the escargo 8x8? no, but that is pretty cool ! this one was vertical ( mounted on its end ) so input was on top, and outputs on the bottom. my main concern is lubrication, but seems like if the gearing is properly wetted the oil will get slung around pretty good. also would need to make sure venting was taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oelbrenner Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 so im going to attempt mounting and running the box upside down, and install a new vent line, and plug up the old one. Well, not really "upside down" as the input side is higher then the output side vertically, but I will flop it over, so the "pan" is facing upwards and the selector shafts are facing down. I have found and secured a CDL locking dicso 2 LT230 and its on its way. my only real concern is lubrication, and seals. lubrication: should I adjust the fill level to ensure "wetted" gears stay wetted when at rest on level ground ? or just put in the same amount of gear oil the manual specifies ? also concerned with inter sling and whatnot getting oil into all the places it needs to lubricate. seals: mostly concerned with the selector shaft seals, they were not designed to be submerged in oil all the time. anything else on the "top" ( which is normally not submerged in oil ) which in this installation would be on the "bottom" that I should be worried about ? any and all feedback is welcome ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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