PolarBlair Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 8 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Just my 2p's worth but that bumper is a big ugly pile of stuff and £750 feels like a pile of cash that could go a looong way on far more useful mods. Upon closer inspection it also looks a tad flimsy by comparison to ARB. I'll save my monies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 13 hours ago, PolarBlair said: Upon closer inspection it also looks a tad flimsy by comparison to ARB. I'll save my monies. Many supertankers are flimsy on that comparison... ARB are designed to plough errant wildlife off the road in the outback and I'm sure they're good at it, but over here they are just huge lumps of unnecessary metal. Unlike regular bullbars which are smaller lumps of unnecessary metal In 20+ years off-roading I've cracked a front light lens on a tree once, maybe twice, replacement costs about a fiver, and the vehicle works perfectly fine with a cracked lens or dented wing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, FridgeFreezer said: Many supertankers are flimsy on that comparison... ARB are designed to plough errant wildlife off the road in the outback and I'm sure they're good at it, but over here they are just huge lumps of unnecessary metal. Unlike regular bullbars which are smaller lumps of unnecessary metal In 20+ years off-roading I've cracked a front light lens on a tree once, maybe twice, replacement costs about a fiver, and the vehicle works perfectly fine with a cracked lens or dented wing. Different people and different vehicle use come to different opinions. On my 90 I love my ARB bumper, it is a place to fit the winch and the spotlights, protects the wings from damage from muntjac and other wildlife plus the odd branch and I think looks great. It is not used for winch competitions so the very slightly reduced approach angle is not important. It is used off road a lot but more tracks and fields with trailers on and the bumper is there to protect it from dents and scrapes which I care about on that truck. On the winch comp 90 there is just a centre winch mount, the wings are the angled challenge type. It is built for maximum approach angles and when it gets bent and dented I knock it out with a sledge hammer. Does it look pretty? No. Does it do the job it is intended for? Yes. I wouldn't have challenge wings on my daily 90 anymore than I would have an ARB bumper on the challenge truck. If you want an ARB on your Defender then go for it. Have to spend your money on something and it can be on whatever you fancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBlair Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 I didn't think the bumper would become the most contentious issue! But for me, if it can do anything to help with the herds of suicidal deer I'm up for it. Getting to and from my house involves a jaunt through a wooded danger zone. I love the wee buggers. We've rewilded our garden and apart from a few access paths cut through the tall stuff it's a haven for them. You can see where they've bedded down for the night by the flattened grass. But my love has limits. Bambi's mums face is my crumple zone. I will still do everything in my power to avoid it but in the wooded areas around me you have to have your head on a swivel to catch one before they bounce right in your path. The ARB bull bar is just for the day when I'm not being a lert. We always need more lerts. So completely accept this will be a compromise. But then, this ain't a challenge truck. Tell you what would be mega - rubber sleeve/cover like on the defender A-bar so you can give things a wee push. Just for those times you can't get round the side to tow. But loving the feedback - keep it coming. None of my hard earned pennies are getting spent until application has been approved and I've been out for a few training days to figure out what really needs doing. After all - still need some dollar bucks in reserve for the camping gear so the missus doesn't have an aneurysm. "There you go me lovely, just how you like it." "Why is my morning coffee black??" "Spent cooler/fridge money." "....................... *calculating disproportionate response* " "But babe, sugar , honey, darling, it's a 17,000lbs winch! Quit hitting me! Let me show you its features, and afterwards I'm sure we will all agree I made the right call." Poor girl. But she new what I was when she married me. So really it's her fault. Course we all know telling them to calm down fixes everything instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 If you can keep your enthusiasm on hold, trawl eBay for 2nd hand bumpers and the like it'll save you a ton - or come to Sodbury (Newbury) Sortout with some folding tokens and see what you find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 When's the next sort out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 This Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 5:20 PM, PolarBlair said: Bambi's mums face is my crumple zone. New tattoo idea? Re COTAG, do they not not also ask for Advanced Driver training? I fancied joining a while ago but was put off by their requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Gazzar said: When's the next sort out? Malvern sort out this weekend https://facebook.com/events/s/malvern-4x4-land-rover-vintage/683712596335302/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Yes, I saw that, we've plans. Sadness. Tempted to rent a stall at the next Malvern sort out and sell some surplus stuff. I need the space. The trick will be avoiding buying new junk to replace the old junk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 They're never near me or I'd want to see how a standard bumper looks on mine, I refuse to pay the prices for new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBlair Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 7:37 PM, paime said: New tattoo idea? Re COTAG, do they not not also ask for Advanced Driver training? I fancied joining a while ago but was put off by their requirements. It's not a strict requirement to join no. It is however encouraged. That's my understanding after discussing my application with COTAGs Chairman Les Forbes. Same goes for the advanced off road driving. I'm not 100% about which parts are required in order to go on call-outs. They may for instance require that 1st aid at work is in place. But nothing on that list needs to be in place before applying and before attending one of their regular off road training days including the radio licence. As they provide a lot of the kit, they do want applicants to have demonstrated a reasonable level of commitment. Best thing to do would probably be noting interest on their online web-form. Les got in touch with me a few days later by phone and explained the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 If deer are that much of a problem, as they are not far from here, then slowing down a tad can be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Big rifle helps more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBlair Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 17 hours ago, Happyoldgit said: If deer are that much of a problem, as they are not far from here, then slowing down a tad can be helpful. It's definitely belt and braces but I would hasten to point out that I was not the last offender in that regard. I'm also not the only driver on the insurance - if you get what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBlair Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Keeping an eye out for good deals. Because of the rollcage, a safari snorkel won't fit. Spied this genuinely brand spankers Southdown snorkel kit for £100. Too good to pass up and came with a 300tdi wader kit. Most of those bits I'm hoping to recycle and use on my TD5 with the addition of some of those brass 90 degree fittings from Gwyn Lewis. Still keeping an eye out for a QT front diff guard. On closer inspection noticed mine already has dents in it. Wisnae me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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