keidicko Posted January 2, 2009 Posted January 2, 2009 I am just starting to build my land rover 90 from scratch can any body tell me the best place to buy a chassis bolt kit from ? Also best place for all my clips and other bits i may need thanks ? Quote
ChrisM_110 Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 I am just starting to build my land rover 90 from scratch can any body tellme the best place to buy a chassis bolt kit from ? Also best place for all my clips and other bits i may need thanks ? Bolts I get from Screwfix [General] Components Direct [Nice grippy rivets and bolts selection] Car Builder Solutions [Lots of bits] Toolfast [Good bolt selection] Clips etc LRSeries [Genuine/Britpart] Used a lot, great service on phone. Craddocks [crappy site layout] Used once. LRParts [Allmakes Parts] Good pattern parts MM4x4 [bearmach/Britpart] Used for a nice lights/buckets deal MPS4x4 [bearmach/Britpart] Not tried yet. Paddocks [Genuine/Bearmach/Britpart] Used. Customer service was arse. Brookwells [Genuine/Bearmach/Britpart] Not tried. Devon4x4 Not tried. VWP [Wiring Specialist] Used. Really fast service. Dear Mods: How about a nice sticky link post with our favourite suppliers and reviews on? Quote
FridgeFreezer Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Before you rush out and order lovely bling stainless bolts, you may want to check if you're going to be encouraging galvanic corrosion. I'd also say your best bet is to find your local nut & bolt supplier (who will often also sell tools, materials, engineering supplies, etc.) they may not be the cheapest but will usually supply pukka stuff and should be trusted to supply all the weird threads and things you find on Land Rovers. Namrick sell party packs of nuts & bolts for reasonable money, I tend to buy a metric selection pack or two to keep stock in the workshop and then source all the weird/special stuff from a local supplier. Since you're doing a rebuild, you will find you can replace a lot of the different fasteners with something common like M8x20 rather than whatever LR had lying round the factory when they built the car. Most of my Series is M8 or M6, the only non-metric fasteners are ones that go into a threaded part that has a different thread as standard. Quote
mmgemini Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Most of my nut,bolts, screws and washers come from Teeside Industrial Fasteners at Preston Farm. For the clips that hold things together like door trim I just visit my dealer. Please keep away from those so called HT bolts at 8.8. Carrots are stronger. Be aware also that stainless steel screws and bolts are not even 8.8. mike Quote
keidicko Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks for the help guys but is there no where that does a kit for a defender that i can buy ? Its hard work going back and forward o the fasteners shop for bolts ! thanks Quote
Shox Dr Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Regardless of the material you use for bolting it together you WILL get Galvanic Corrosion. Zinc and Aluminium are very close to each other on the Galvanic Index so are better "partners" than SSteel/Aluminium, as it is father apart on the inex having a greater electrical difference, thus ironically speeding up the corrosion of the lesser material; Aluminium in this case, the best thing you can use is Anti-Galvanic Paste, between the parts, this will slow down the process. I cant remember what it's called in the UK but a quick google brought these two brand up in the states "TefGel" and "Lanocote". Any Anti-Galvanic Paste will do, it's used in the boat building industry, a ship chandlers will have it Quote
western Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 other than sitting down with the parts book & listing all the fixings you want & then going out to source them, I'm not aware of vehicle specific bolt kits for LR's. mudstuff do a stainless bolt kit for door/bonnet hinges. Quote
bobed90 Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 I have just bought a stainless steel bolt kit for my chassis of ebay. If you do a search on there you will find them. They also have a website www.a2stainless.co.uk . For the axle bolts you can buy from places like paddocks etc. For all the odds and sods i used screwfix. Quote
PaulMc Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 I have just bought a stainless steel bolt kit for my chassis of ebay. If you do a search on there you will find them. They also have a website www.a2stainless.co.uk . For the axle bolts you can buy from places like paddocks etc. For all the odds and sods i used screwfix. I'd be careful about replacing chassis bolts with stainless. As Mike said in his post above, stainless aren't even as strong as HT 8.8 Bolts. I had a look at www.a2stainless.co.uk and was horrified to see that they sell a Land Rover MOD Defender NATO hitch bolt kit which they qualify with the following disclaimer - "SAFETY NOTE: Please ensure your crossmember is in good condition, and in particular that the anti-crush tubes are solid. We are also mindful that stainless steel is not as strong as grade 8.8 high-tensile steel bolts, however, in our experience we have found no evidence of failure of these replacements. Nonetheless, we advise you to satisfy yourself that your safety will not be compromised by fitting these items" and, they only supply 1 nut per bolt, a NATO Pintle should have 2 x full height nuts per bolt. Picking up on the other thing that Mike said - 8.8 metric bolts should be equivalent to Grade 'S' imperial bolts, but I'm not sure that some of the mass produced Chinese bolts and set-screws out there, are really the 8.8 grade they are marked as The only way to ensure that you're getting the real-deal and not some Chinese knock-offs is to do as Mike does and go to an industrial fastener supplier, who should be only too happy to tell you which manufacturers he sources his stock from. Paul. Quote
headhunter Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Regardless of the material you use for bolting it together you WILL get Galvanic Corrosion. Zinc and Aluminium are very close to each other on the Galvanic Index so are better "partners" than SSteel/Aluminium, as it is father apart on the inex having a greater electrical difference, thus ironically speeding up the corrosion of the lesser material; Aluminium in this case, the best thing you can use is Anti-Galvanic Paste, between the parts, this will slow down the process.I cant remember what it's called in the UK but a quick google brought these two brand up in the states "TefGel" and "Lanocote". Any Anti-Galvanic Paste will do, it's used in the boat building industry, a ship chandlers will have it Duralac is the paste to use to reduce galvanic corrosion. Find it here - http://www.intek-uk.com/duralac.htm John Quote
mmgemini Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks for the help guys but is there no where that does a kit for a defender that i can buy ?Its hard work going back and forward o the fasteners shop for bolts ! thanks Not really a two hour walk each way nicely fills the afternoon in........ I keep nuts, bolts and screws in stock for the normal sizes....That way I generally have what I require on the shelf.... mike Quote
keidicko Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 Not really a two hour walk each way nicely fills the afternoon in........I keep nuts, bolts and screws in stock for the normal sizes....That way I generally have what I require on the shelf.... mike I dont ! Quote
keidicko Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 What makes things better is LR in speke is only two mins up the road so i called them today about brake line clips and he told me to go to a motor factor ! Hows that for service ! Quote
mmgemini Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 What makes things better is LR in speke is only two mins up the road so i called them today about brake line clips and he told me to go to a motor factor ! Hows that for service ! Stratstone Stockton soon got the brake pipe clips for me...... As for the walk. Well there's not much choice in the matter if I don't have my Defender also it costs four quid in diesel...Walking id a very good free exercise.. mike Quote
ChrisM_110 Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 +1 for Duralac. Effective and it goes a long way. Got mine from a chandlers. Quote
ajh Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 All good information, anyone know where the best Defender bolt-list would be? I"m re-doing my 110 and will be using things like bonded washers (rubber on stainless) and nylon collared washers (to separate alu and ss from whatever they're bolted to, etc) and it would be nice to have a list so I can order in bulk at least roughly... not that I don't plan on doing a 90 and a 101 later Quote
Jon W Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Bringing this back up, I am just about to buy some now bolts for my galv chassis swap and have got some stainless bolts for the seatbox and floor plates. A lot of the chassis bolts I have been surprised how good they are for 27years old. So am I best going for zinc plated nuts and bolts on the chassis fixings? I was going to copper slip them all anyway. And is it just where aluminium comes into contact that I need to apply the special paste? Thanks Jon Quote
western Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 I used a chassis to body bolt kit from http://www.a2stainless.co.uk/Land-Rover-Defender-110-Chassis-Bolt-Kit_AJ5PM.aspx?nh=1 all given a coat of coppaslip, been on 4 years nowwith no problem. Quote
roamingyak Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) On 1/3/2009 at 2:23 PM, PaulMc said: I'd be careful about replacing chassis bolts with stainless. As Mike said in his post above, stainless aren't even as strong as HT 8.8 Bolts.Picking up on the other thing that Mike said - 8.8 metric bolts should be equivalent to Grade 'S' imperial bolts, but I'm not sure that some of the mass produced Chinese bolts and set-screws out there, are really the 8.8 grade they are marked as The only way to ensure that you're getting the real-deal and not some Chinese knock-offs is to do as Mike does and go to an industrial fastener supplier, who should be only too happy to tell you which manufacturers he sources his stock from. I'd appreciate anybody sharing a link to somewhere that can sell high quality none stainless steel bolts - I don't have the knowledge or luxury of being able to visit any places like this etc. I'm also after a good stock of the most common sizes for replacement of existing bolts and nuts and for adding modifications etc. (eg: My Nato hitch will come off soon and would like to add new bolts etc) Thanks in advance! Edited July 30, 2018 by roamingyak Quote
soutie Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 I see you are in Portugal, hence the request to a website. I have used Wright off Road in the past and have found them to be good. http://www.wrightsautosupplies.co.uk/ http://www.wrightsautosupplies.co.uk/product-category/land-rover/assorted-restoration-packs/ 1 Quote
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