FridgeFreezer Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 One of the jobs I'm currently half way through is replacing the mish-mash of coolant pipes on the 109 with stainless sections. As part of this, I need to put a bead around the end to help hold the hose on. You can buy tools to do this for varying amounts of money, about £150 is the minimum I've seen. An additional wrinkle is that cheaper ones seem to be limited in material thickness - the pipes I've got are 1.2mm wall stainless, which is pushing the limit for most commercial products I've seen. Typical tools are: https://www.frost.co.uk/heavy-duty-swaging-machine-hand-swager-bead-roller-464mm-y015.html https://www.frost.co.uk/bead-forms-for-metal-tubing.html Similar but £300 cheaper: http://shop.useful-tools.co.uk/hand-beading-tool-4-p.asp Earl's make these much cheaper things but they're specific to a particular diameter of tube and I don't trust the result as much: https://www.earls.co.uk/earls/accessories/tools/beadingtools.html I've seen home-brew cheap options using mole grips or crimping pliers fashioned to gradually press a bead into a pipe but they don't inspire full confidence and look a bit tedious. Currently I'm considering DIYing something similar to MickeyW's version: Anyone else done anything similar / got any better ideas or neat wrinkles? If it helps I have a lathe and a fairly hefty arbour press. EDIT: Knackers, just found Nige has already done a thread on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 What sort of diameter is it John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Pretty sure RV8 coolant hoses are 38mm internal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 35-38mm ish yes. 1.2mm wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Friend at work has one which might work. Although it only mentions Ali and copper in the description, I can give it a go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Interesting post as I have been faced with the same problem fitting the 200 Tdi in the Hybrid. Eventually ended up going to a machine shop place in Holand to get them done. Crate of beer was enough - esp. when they learned I got good beer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Hunter Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi, FF, There might be something here to help you. http://www.homemadetools.net/category/bead-rollers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 That's a handy site Mike, duly bookmarked! This one's pretty neat: http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/tube-bead-roller-18232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 TBH I'm being half tempted by the idea of just buying the "Useful tools" one to do it properly, as I could always flog it on ebay later if I get bored of flanging things It's a bit extravagant but I've been saving pennies specifically for the purpose of sorting things like this with the 109 and doing it properly, and money spent on tools is never wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Can you machine some grooves around the ends on the lathe. That's all they used to do at work on stainless manifolds. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 If you can weld stainless (or know someone that can) TIG a few beads around the diameter, doesn't need to be continuous as it is there to stop the hose from sliding off, not do the actual sealing. Could save a load of pennies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Know anyone to put some beads of weld on Fridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 16 hours ago, landroversforever said: Know anyone to put some beads of weld on Fridge? One doesn't like to abuse favours if possible but if it's easily done who am I to argue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 4:59 PM, FridgeFreezer said: TBH I'm being half tempted by the idea of just buying the "Useful tools" one to do it properly, as I could always flog it on ebay later if I get bored of flanging things It's a bit extravagant but I've been saving pennies specifically for the purpose of sorting things like this with the 109 and doing it properly, and money spent on tools is never wasted. I’ll probably need some custom hoses, as when I fit 4.6 in range rover classic I’m also using an aftermarket Hevac. So if it helps, you could have some funds towards tool for borrowing when needed, or alternatively making up ss sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 There is also this one https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/98599-bead-roller-for-small-bores/ ; presumably you want something a bit more heavy duty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 18 hours ago, cackshifter said: There is also this one https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/98599-bead-roller-for-small-bores/ ; presumably you want something a bit more heavy duty? Oh good, I wasn't going mad. I remembered something like that, but couldn't find it on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The beading tool is ready under my desk at work Fridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 This looks good! https://www.stakesys.co.uk/bead-formers-jennys/manual-machines/br460x1e-e-range-bead-former Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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