Peaklander Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 During my time at Honda Swindon, every single engine was started and checked for leaks and general operation. This was done as a production line operation immediately after final engine assembly. The engines stayed hanging on the overhead coveyor but slotted onto the ‘bench’ with the conveyor there out of ‘gear’. They were quick coupled up to fuel and exhaust extraction. I think there were five benches at the end of each of the two lines, so the cycle time was x5 the other assembly production operations but even so, it was quick. The best was that the pass rate was around 99% (some quick adjustments allowed) and the no-touch pass rate was still high 90s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Peaklander said: During my time at Homda Swindon, every single engine was started and checked for leaks and general operation. This was done as a production line operation immediately after final engine assembly. The engines stayed hanging on the overhead coveyor but slotted onto the ‘bench’ with the conveyor there out of ‘gear’. They were quick coupled up to fuel and exhaust extraction. I think there were five benches at the end of each of the two lines, so the cycle time was x5 the other assembly production operations but even so, it was quick. The best was that the pass rate was around 99% (some quick adjustments allowed) and the no-touch pass rate was still high 90s. With that experience I could do with you here...... Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmmv Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just a suggestion; while you have the engine out and easily accessible, do or at least check the timing belts. A neighbour had a 1uz in a land cruiser (apparently they bolt straight in)and he remarked a belt failure is disaster, they need to be kept on top of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, fmmv said: Just a suggestion; while you have the engine out and easily accessible, do or at least check the timing belts. A neighbour had a 1uz in a land cruiser (apparently they bolt straight in)and he remarked a belt failure is disaster, they need to be kept on top of. It's on my check list anyway, also it depends on the age of the engine, some of the earlier ones you could snap a belt with no damage, the later ones were interference fit Regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 Regards Stephen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 oooh yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Well, how much lighter is it than the TDI.....🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 210kg minus flywheel and adapter is my guess. With manifolds and ancillaries and wiring harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkfloyd Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Stellaghost said: Regards Stephen 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 So my calculations so far Sid weighs this Axles held up with winches weight so thats 1704 +57 for tyre and wheel combo so weight without off road gear is 1761kg rear axle 223kg front axle 254 kg which leaves a sprung weight of 1284kg regards Stephen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 That's.... Lighter than I suspected. Nicely done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: That's.... Lighter than I suspected. Nicely done. Once it's road legal I will get it weighed on the weigh bridge at work also to see if there is any discrepancies Regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Ooops - here I was thinking we were guessing the weight of the 1UZ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ed Poore said: Ooops - here I was thinking we were guessing the weight of the 1UZ... Not that different to the Tdi I'd suspect. That is very light indeed , you need some soft ply tyres to suit now. Shame ATV/Mule tyres don't come in your size Good result Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 There'll be 100Kg difference between 200tdi and 1UZ when both dressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 So 1284kg of sprung weight.. what does that mean with regard to spring choice, never considered this before Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Air bags!🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 That's about / just under the standard weight of a stock 109 van body I think, and about a ton below the average fully kitted UK challenge 90 As suspected bu&&er all weight in the body, I think soft springs & good shocks to keep it from rattling you around too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I've got a set of new 110 rear springs going spare that were designed to go with the Boge unit so are very very soft indeed. Put them on the 110 and it promptly sat on its arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 What sort of gap are you after between the spring seats, front and rear? Perhaps being thick, but did you weigh the front and rear separately? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Ed Poore said: I've got a set of new 110 rear springs going spare that were designed to go with the Boge unit so are very very soft indeed. Put them on the 110 and it promptly sat on its arse. The won’t fit in the spring seats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, dangerous doug said: The won’t fit in the spring seats If ever there was a red rag to a bull... This is Stephen we're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: I think soft springs & good shocks to keep it from rattling you around too much I take it my Fox shocks are not good ............. Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Guess it depends on what rating they are? Assuming you're talking about the dampers here rather than the springs (which are technically the shock absorbers on the suspension)... If they're designed for a heavy vehicle then they could give quite a jarring ride, the same as having stiff springs. I do remember seeing tables of vehicle corner weight vs. desirable spring rate for different applications. Now you've got some numbers we can start comparing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Stellaghost said: I take it my Fox shocks are not good ............. I did mean to add "which you already have" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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