Guest otchie1 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Ever since some unfortunate experiences with a Z200 that used a cable operated disk brake I've harboured dark thoughts about anything disky that isn't hydraulic. Obviously a new cable operated caliper on a straight pull test will out perform a knackered drum but how do they stack up as hand brakes when they are both set up properly? Didn't Citroen have them and end up with cars rolling down hills after hot disks cooled and contracted enough to slip? So, experiences please whilst i go and rock the 110 to free the hand brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I've never heard of any problems with a disc handbrake fitted to a Land Rover as long as they are installed correctly. They are much more reliable, easier to maintain/clean, and more powerful than the standard drum set up. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2hotdog Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Get one you won't regret it One of the best things I brought for my 90 Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Ever since some unfortunate experiences with a Z200 that used a cable operated disk brake I've harboured dark thoughts about anything disky that isn't hydraulic.Obviously a new cable operated caliper on a straight pull test will out perform a knackered drum but how do they stack up as hand brakes when they are both set up properly? Didn't Citroen have them and end up with cars rolling down hills after hot disks cooled and contracted enough to slip? So, experiences please whilst i go and rock the 110 to free the hand brake The Citroen issue was down to the handbrake lever being in the same place for left hand and right hand drive models offset nearer to the LHS then people not applying enough tension on the handbrake due to it not being a straight pull as if the lever were more central it operated on the front discs when the discs cooled there were runaway Xantias a recall sorted the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 how do they stack up as hand brakes when they are both set up properly? Pretty much even-Stevens in most situations. A properly set-up drum brake will work very well and hold the Landrover on very steep hills. The trouble is that once mud gets in and seizes the brake mechanism you cannot release the shoes properly and then they get worn and end up out of adjustment. Then you have a problem. This does not happen with disc brakes as mud cannot get into the sealed caliper mechanism. There is some "spring" in the whole cable/mounting system so any cooling and shrinking of the disc will be taken up. Since the disc is not part of a service brake, it does not get hot and expand in the same way as a Citroen. Chris X-eng salesman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Best bit of replacement kit you can get for an LR. However go for the original not the shoddy copies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 X-eng salesman You finally got a job! Coat, door, running......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Ask Mark how strong a disc handbrake can be......... Seriously, though. I spent many an hour after each time off road dismantling and rebuilding the drum brake so that it would work. Even after a real fight to get one fitted to the back of a Borg Warner, I am much happier that I can apply the handbrake and rely on it, no matter how covered in cr#p the underneath of the car is. Adrian Satisfied customer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 its a pleasant feeling to know that whatever the incline is you can pull the brake on and the car will be in the same place you left it when you come back - X brake = money well spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 yep definately one of the best bolt on upgrades you can put on a landy, my landy used to fail every mot on ineffective handbrake meaning yet another strip and rebuild, the Xbrake is much stronger and dead easy to adjust, also it makes checking your tbox oil much easier too Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I have an X brake on my 110. With my boat on the back giving an overall weight in excess of 4.5 tons fully laden the handbrake has no problem holding the whole outfit on a 35 degree slipway when launching. You just have to trust in the cable fittings! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest otchie1 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Wow, a 100% satisfaction rating. Thanks for all replies, time to start saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Another vote for the X-brake here, very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 You finally got a job! Coat, door, running......... Seriously, best bit of kit i ever fitted, As Jez says, the truck will always be on the hill where you left it on return Si, will they fit the 07 year Defender ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Si, will they fit the 07 year Defender ?? If you do not mind me replying on Si's behalf, yes, they do. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Why thank you kind sir Presume you are in the running for the X-Eng salesman of the year award Again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 its a pleasant feeling to know that whatever the incline is you can pull the brake on and the car will be in the same place you left it when you come back Unless a halfshaft snaps while the vehicle is parked and it rolls down the hill anyway.It's happened on a couple of occasions, not to me personally but years ago I got into the habit of engaging 4wd or rear difflock when parking on gradients on road or off. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 not a problem for me Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Note though otchie, that the testimonials in this thread are referring to the original X-eng disc handbrake conversion not the poor quality replica made by Scorpion Racing. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I didn't know they made one! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 they don't, its made in a chinese sweat shop by tired childeren in leg irons, who are given a cup of rice and a good slap everyday for their trouble... Whereas the X-Eng item is assembled in the UK, made from quality components and comes with excellent aftersales service... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Whereas the X-Eng item is assembled in the UK, made from quality components and comes with excellent aftersales service... ...not to mention an LR4x4 Discount! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 ...not to mention an LR4x4 Discount! Thanks chaps! Thought i could feel my ears burning! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Thought i could feel my ears burning! There's a joke in there somewhere Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 maybe, but it would be in very good taste, after Si's recent happenings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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