alan kemp Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 My car was knicked a while back and was chased by Police and stuffed into a hedge. New door, wing and complete re-spray. My insurance has doubled as it was a new policy with introductory no claims bonus, it has also affected my other indurance policies and will affect any new policies I want to take out. The toe rag has been put away for this and a few other things. Can I get any compensation from him or other sources to cover my increase in insurances and excess, all totalling well over £1000 to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilIT Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 My car was knicked a while back and was chased by Police and stuffed into a hedge. New door, wing and complete re-spray. My insurance has doubled as it was a new policy with introductory no claims bonus, it has also affected my other indurance policies and will affect any new policies I want to take out. The toe rag has been put away for this and a few other things. Can I get any compensation from him or other sources to cover my increase in insurances and excess, all totalling well over £1000 to date. I woudl have thought if you had legal protection you could have made a claim against him as an individual, might be worth checking with your insurance company - but that would probably result in 2 parts of zilch - (get ready for some big broad brush strokes here) as you typically find the scum who do this havent got a proverbial pot to p*** in - so whilst you may get an award - he will probably have little or no assets and cash - so you will spend more money to get nothing The other option is to find out when he's released and call the boys in when he gets out - doesnt fix the monetary side of things, but does warm the cockles of ones heart on a cold wintery night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 There was (is?) a Criminal Injuries Compensation Board. I had a feeling the principal had been extended to cover financial losses as well. Try a Citzens Advice Bureau, the on-line presence is http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 When an uninsured toe rag hit me (slighly different) I took out a CCJ against him for the excess. Good Luck though what ever you try. Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 A good friend of mine lives in a very shady part of Portsmouth and had a Quad nicked a very long story short and a long time latter the police visited my mate to tell him that they couldn't follow the case any longer due to lack of evidence against the guy who was court red handed. but if it was any consolation the chap who stole its XR2 pride and joy car had been rammed and pushed through his porch by a very large vehicle and that that would never be traced as there were no witnesses or paint etc. what a pity that such a toerag got a taste of his own medicine. The two police officers then commented on how nice the bumper was on his 110 smiled and left. I'm not going to name this chap but those who know him will laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlykepower Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dunno if you could sue, but I like the idea of sending the lads round to visit! Perhaps we could have a forum get together, and all take turns in putting his head through a brick wall? I think we all have had some experience of theft in our times, and something as emotive as stealing a car, especially a marque such as ours where, by their very nature, we tend to be even more passionate about vehicles than your regular car lover; I believe revenge is a wonderful punishment. £1000 in excess insurance premiums = 6 months in traction eating food through a straw. Sounds bloody fair to me. I have been the victim, several times, both in England & South Africa, of thefts, and will gladly help you spread a toe-rags teeth over the pavement with you!! Mart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean f Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 In theory you can sue for expences, damage trauma etc. In practice as has been said the person responsible is unlikley to have any (thats traceable) money so even if you win you get a worthless court order against them but nothing else. The same holds true for burgglery etc. After the Tony Martin case the burggler he hit but survived tried to sue him for damages, one (of several) reasons this was dropped was that Tony Martind legal people contacted some of the toe rags previous victims and arranged for them to start damages cases against him. So even if he had won anything it would have been held whilst the other cases ran and since he had a LOT of other convictions he was unlikely to see any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekker Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 try http://www.mib.org.uk/Default.htm, they compensate people hit by uninsured drivers, i dont know anyone that has used them but may be worth a try. steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 burglar he hit I went to school with him! (what a sad life I lead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan kemp Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Thanks for the advice. As said, I would probably get no compensation from him, just a 19 year old with nothing, no job and no chance of getting one. It was't my landrover that was nicked, it was a BMW, stole the key in a burglery. My Disco was attacked the other week and they stole my sat nav after breaking the window, cost £64, (no it wasnt on show nor were any of the bits that go with it). After the BMW was fixed, some tw*t thoght it would be funny to kick the wing mirror off along with 10 other cars in the street, some on driveways. That will cost £280 if my mate does it, god knows what a main dealer would charge. Why do they do it. I saw them legging it after I heard the commotion and looked out of my window at 3.00am. They were 2 lads about 18 or 19 going home from a local night club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrode Finger Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yep feel for you regarding the local scrotes, had my car, kicked, etc by the 'its funny to kick in a wing mirror after 10 pints' muppets, always at silly in the morning, after a night in the pub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 £1000 in excess insurance premiums = 6 months in traction eating food through a straw. Sounds bloody fair to me. Not really when you consider he will be costing the NHS several hundred pounds a day for 6 months while he is in traction! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAVED_GORILLA Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If the theft occured as part of a burglary, try your house insurance company as you may well be covered through them. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mortus Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 my uncle shot two gypsys in the back of the legs (with a 12 bore) whilst they tried to nick a caravan off his caravan site. they didnt come back. his brother is in prison for hitting the guy who cheated with his wife over the head with the blunt side of an axe. my familys got issuess... i wonder what im going to be like when im older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 his brother is in prison for hitting the guy who cheated with his wife over the head with the blunt side of an axe. Should have hit the wife.... she's the one that did the cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougstar Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 i agree with diesel.. the wife should have got the sharp end of the axe! and a great big pat on the back to your uncle mind for standing up to the light fingered little sh1ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mortus Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 lol, he didnt have to go to prison or anything for shooting them, the police just ignored the gypsies when they tried to get him done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 my uncle shot two gypsys in the back of the legs (with a 12 bore) whilst they tried to nick a caravan off his caravan site.they didnt come back. his brother is in prison for hitting the guy who cheated with his wife over the head with the blunt side of an axe. is this therefore your father? or another uncle? why do bloke always smack the other bloke when it's the wife who's done the cheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 never try and sue a poor man. you need to find a wealthy source if you want to sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilIT Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think we need Simon to come up with a variation of these for unattended cars !!! Extreme Alarms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think we need Simon to come up with a variation of these for unattended cars !!!Extreme Alarms Cool! Long ago, when I lived in London, I built my own car alarm (as you do) based on a Z8 Microcontroller (Remember them?). It, in response to a number of stimuli had an escelating sequence of responses which included: 120dBA 'Sound Bombs', Smoke grenade and a number of ground maroons (bangers used in stage & TV). The idea being to make it less and less comfortable to stay in the truck. I tried a test detonation of one of the maroons to see how loud it was (from a safe distance). It blew out one of the windows and set fire to the carpet! The only problem was the alarm drew nearly 8 Amps (no such thing as low power computers in those days) - so your battery was generally flat before it had a chance to detonate. Probably just as well! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Cool! Long ago, when I lived in London, I built my own car alarm (as you do) based on a Z8 Microcontroller (Remember them?).It, in response to a number of stimuli had an escelating sequence of responses which included: 120dBA 'Sound Bombs', Smoke grenade and a number of ground maroons (bangers used in stage & TV). The idea being to make it less and less comfortable to stay in the truck. I tried a test detonation of one of the maroons to see how loud it was (from a safe distance). It blew out one of the windows and set fire to the carpet! The only problem was the alarm drew nearly 8 Amps (no such thing as low power computers in those days) - so your battery was generally flat before it had a chance to detonate. Probably just as well! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Cool! Long ago, when I lived in London, I built my own car alarm (as you do) based on a Z8 Microcontroller (Remember them?).It, in response to a number of stimuli had an escelating sequence of responses which included: 120dBA 'Sound Bombs', Smoke grenade and a number of ground maroons (bangers used in stage & TV). The idea being to make it less and less comfortable to stay in the truck. I tried a test detonation of one of the maroons to see how loud it was (from a safe distance). It blew out one of the windows and set fire to the carpet! The only problem was the alarm drew nearly 8 Amps (no such thing as low power computers in those days) - so your battery was generally flat before it had a chance to detonate. Probably just as well! Si Brilliant !! Any chance of an updated version? X-Alarm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Something I have had in a sort of semi-condensed vapour form for a while now is most of an alarm with an SMS interface using a fairly chunky PIC. The idea was you would get an SMS when the alarm was activated complete with GPS co-ordinates. You then have the option of sending one back to disable the car. This had other spin-off uses for things to do via SMS....arm/disarm, start engine, squirt washers, but a smoke bomb/grenade was something I never considered. Never got around to getting it to a stage when it could be fitted though...mostly just rather buggy code! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I thought of a tape recorder and a gas bottle. When the car is stolen a recorded voice says "Gas is being released, you will die" and then a valve opens to release the gas of your choice into the car. I'd favour CO2, so if they tried to torch it, the fire would be put out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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