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Another vote for Kaspersky, Does everything it needs to without slowing you down, customer support is brilliant, they even rang 2 days after our enquiry to make sure we were still happy! Never had a virus and its computer mong friendly...

Its cheap too!

Mike

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I have ESET Security Suite (NOD32) in my computer and I would rank it tops next to Kaspersky. Whats great with these products is that once they are installed, you don't have to do anything they automatically protect your entire system!

Norton, Zone Alarm and lesser names are resource pigs that are not worth the money. I do question how good these free anti virus programs are, are you really getting the full package and are they really protecting you? Better off buying.

Todd.

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Was speaking with an ex Microsoft guy who now works for HP at work the other day (fairly senior in product development etc) about AV software - he always wipes Norton off any of his PC's and installs AVG for all the reasons previously stated- Norton too big, lumbering and fairly useless.

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I do question how good these free anti virus programs are, are you really getting the full package and are they really protecting you?

Yes, they are full versions, the reason they give it to you free is because all the home users act as one huge group of beta testers for their corporate products, a win situation for both parties.

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Norton: Bloaty and slow and also the cause of many many issues. So much so that if a PC does have problems, the first thing to check is if it is running Norton. The number of applications that mention Norton on their tech support pages as a factor in issues is incredible.

Computer Associates: don't touch. Low detection rate and zero fix/uninstall info on their web site. Missed viruses and trojans that others spotted. Clunky and hard to use.

McAfee: awful tech support, they just don't answer the phone. I returned their product and demanded a refund from our reseller.

Trend: This is what we are running across our 4 sites (IPSEC VPN tunnels) and so far it has been great. Tech support is very good, high detection rate and easy to use. Works nicely over the domain and for remote users. Excellent web site with detailed virus fix info and reg edits.

Kaspersky: Have used and have heard many good things.

mad

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Use IE7 in built protection and Xp's own firewall (2 years and still safe) It works and my PC/Laptop is alot better for it.

Sticking to a few rules: 1: No Porn 2:No Porn

When you really look into any anti virus its just as vunerable as the next.

IMHO Linux systems are where its at if you want a better way to protect your systems.

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We had norton on this laptop and it started crashing so took it in the computer shop said the poor thing was screaming with the amount of trojans etc.. that had got past the norton me brothers computer completly crashed due to norton and also me mates we are all running avast now and seems stunning!! :P

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I use Kaspersky as well. Used to have Norton but when it expired I could not renew it as their website kept screwing up!! So I tried to delete it and it would not delete off the machine. Eventually I got a new machine and would not touch Norton with someone elses bargepole let alone my own. Kaspersky is also what we use at work. Had absolutely no problems with it.

Ivan

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Well, it turns out i'm infected with "flec006.exe" and HLDRRR.exe, both of which are slimier and more of a pain in the arse than a certain orange parts manufacturer.

no end of playing seems to cure them and the more hacks i try, the more degenerated my PC gets, so i've just saved all the vital stuff and screen shots onto my data drive, and am going to re-format and re-install XP

Sooo.... see y'all in about 3 hours time! :lol::lol:

actually, i can rig up my carPC to a battery and still play on line B) B) B)

adios amigos! h'asta pronto

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Well, thats gotta be the easiest quickest XPpro install ever!!

and the first thing i did.... got AVG8.0 running and updated!

phew, safe again.... :ph34r::ph34r:

now, bed coz i'm knackered. :blink::blink:

adios amigos!!

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For anyone running a linux/unix type enviroment as a router/internet server/proxy/whatever... a small modification to the IPTABLES firewall blocking all ASCII references to cmd.exe and cmd32.exe usually block around 90% of computervirusses.

A simple and generic IPTABLES command for such blocking would be:

iptables -I FORWARD -j DROP -p tcp -s 0.0.0.0/0 -m string --string "cmd.exe"

One would probably want to expand that a little - adding some logging and such....

If the desktop enviroment also is linux there are no specific reason to implement such blocking. It is only to protect fragile windows-installations. Linux itself is pretty much in-vulnerable to such virus-attacks...

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  • 3 weeks later...

So

What would the panel vote for on a New Laptop 'security wise' ?? :

I need antivirus, and firewall etc etc :huh:

Not too worried about paying for something, but want it to be the best ?

I have Norton at the moment on my PC, but won't remove as it could be a right PITFA so sticking with that, but also the version I have (Norton System works Pro 2007) is not as bloaty I hear as the new 360, which I have heard is horrible !)

So

Which Packages / packages to go for them ?

Considering

Kapersky Internet Security Suite

AVG Internet V8.0 security Suite

Panda Internet Security

Avast - but thats both free but nothing other than AntiVirus ? so what to go with it ??

Or what else is good to consider or one of these above ?

Oh FFS <sigh> F PCs............. :lol:

HELP

Nige

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If the PC is not visiting hacking/ gambling / porn sites like wot you normally do....... And not on the internet a lot.... Much of a muchness.

AVG 8 free version gives good Antivirus cover. Vista / XP built in firewall is good at stopping things coming inbound.

(Very few, other than dedicated Firewall products stop outbound issues - But you've already been infected by this point.)

"Cheap and effective"

Panda Antivirus I personally rate and have had it looking after Virus protection on my machines at home since 2005. It now has Firewall capabilities but I only switch that on when mobile. I have router / hardware firewall looking after the house and network.

"I trust it bus it costs"

PCTools do a good Spyware / Malware product and have added antivirus, but AVG has caught more stuff Virus wise. It's usually a fight between AVG and Panda to tell you first... "Me Sir, please choose me sir" syndrome.

"Also trusted but is costs"

I believe paying for good cover is worth it. If you lose all emails, pictures, filthy V8 porn etc. it costs to get it back. Well worth stopping it ever getting there.

Avoid Norton and McAffee.

Whatever you do, have a back-up programme for all valuable data on the machine. At worst, you only lose a little.

(Portable USB hard drives are cheap now and if switched off when not in use, should give many years of safe backup - Subject to fire, flood, being driven over by a 90 on Simex etc.)

Neil

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What are they measuring....

Some of those on that list are applications that try and take control of your life, restrict what you can do to some extreme levels....

"No Mr Hybrid.... I will not let you choose if you can use your home network, Wifi or data card... I have control Muuahhhhhhhaaaa!!!"

Or

"No Hell type person, I will not let you have that file attached to your email.. It may be harmful, it may not, but because of the file name your friends thought funny, I will keep it as mine... ALL MINE......."

They might be great at stopping / detecting virii, but they may also sap system resources, slow down the system etc.

You should ask people for their experiences... A lot have already fed back and I would listen to some of them.. Many voting for AVG, AVAST, NOD32 etc as I scroll back. All doing well in the real world....

Have you ever bought a car that was advertised as "Car Buyers best buy recommendation" ?

A decision based on what someone who knew little about cars but nice glove compartment they thought they liked, even though they chose a Land Rover for themselves....

:)

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Ok OK I am Liostening :ph34r: honest guv

Its just importnant that I get this right for 2 reasons -

1 I am c**p at PCs and

2nd this is SWMBO Laptop (which I will use) and gawd help me if it dies -

I will then follow shortly afterwards :lol:

I have also spoken to our own inhouse IT guys, and yes even more mixed messages...

They use Highjack This Ccleaner and a Firewall (Free) called Online Armour - means zip to me

However : :blink:

ALL seem to agree Norton are losing the plot and slow down even new big spec PCs

ZoneAlarm is also seen as slowing machines down and overbloaty now compared with a few years back

Most seem to go 'Uuugh' when you mention McAfee

ALL say Yep I need to have cover

Quite a Number have said KAPERSKY is a tad flakey and they have known new machines die literally on loading it - most say hold for V9 which is only in Beta Testing (whatever that means) at the mo....

MANY say AVAST is very very good, ....some say better than AVG which also is top listing - and both could be free

SPYBOT http://www.spybot.com/en/index.html search & destroy comes up time and time (and its free) again as something to have ?

So what about say AVAST for Antivirus, SPYBOT .....and is windows Firewall in Vista OK ????????????

I am now going to reread this thread - yet again :huh:

Jeeeez I have a headache :(

Nige

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