Jon W Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yer I know this and have done with appropriate switches in previous Land Rovers. But am looking to put better reverse lamps on the girlfriends work Hilux as can only see out of side mirrors and when reversing into gate ways farm etc in the winter it would be better for her to see what she is reversing into. Hence I want this to be easily fitted and removed as her pick up may be changed soon and I wouldn't get much notice to take bits off it. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 If its on a hilix use many scotchlocks, many many scotchlocks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshsurferdude Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Thanks pink, I have found a 40" one from china with 3D beam for 240 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I bought a 20" led light bar from china Cost me £130 delivered Got it on my 110 and I am very pleased uses no power and very bright . Have just got a Led work light for the back for the camp trips. As said before a bit too bright to take a pic of at night with it looking carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPendrey Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Now, at what point do these become illegal for blinding other 'road' users? After all, a byway is still a road?? The other problem I reckon I'd have is that you'd soon get very accustom to the really good visibility, and then need to turn them off when you hit the tarmac, at which point your normal lamps will seem rubbish and your eyesight will be useless for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 in UK they would have to be wired in with the normal mainbeam headlights, so the led unit goes off when headlights are dipped, same as any other additional spot or driving light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Only problem with that, is that lamps should be in pairs for C&U regulations, yes this means the minis in Italian Job (the good one) were technically illegal with 5 lamps on the front. Reserve for off-road use only I would say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverdrive Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Jon W You could always try replacing the lamps with brighter LED ones while you have the truck. Not particularly legal, as they are not "E" marked, but they improve the rearward visibility. I fitted an extra reversing light to my 110, and fitted LEDs to both. It made a vast improvement, especially in the rain when reversing in to the driveway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 As far as lamp in pairs is concerned they are as the LEDs are all in even numbers so ok there as far as legal issues are concerned mine have a disconnection switch in both the headlight one and the rear "reversing" light hence why I have the original still. but should be ok anyway as they are only 18w each, just put out the light of a 150w one ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oh, and a maximum of 6 lamps illuminated at any one time. LED != lamp Cluster of LEDs = lamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Out of intrest how do the peeps with bonnet pods, twin spots and headlights do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2986 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I think if you just use them sensibly (whatever you have) there is no reason for the old bill to bother you. Unless your someone who would go round with their main beam on blinding everyone in which case plod would pull you regardless of what kind and how many lights you have fitted. I have 4 x 50w HID lights on my roll cage, the front spot are also converted to HID. When laining at night they are superb and to be honest I haven't really noticed any real lack of vision when I go back to dip, After all I'm only going slowly... and it's not as though I go to blackout i would still have my dip beams on. There all isolated and switched so that they can be turned on by themselves or by main beam or not come on at all regardless of whatever the standard lights are doing. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 This looks familiar, think it's near our house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 First trip out in it's sublte new colour was going to be painted nato green then I got a pot of this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I had looked into buying some LED lights direct from China whilst on a work trip but as the trip didn't happen I didn't get any but the factory that I found keep sending me price lists. I am not sure of the quality, of the lights but they seem fairly well priced clearly you would have to pay shipping, Import fees and VAT and have to buy a cartons worth but I'm sure people on here could get together to save money. Jason. best pricelist of LED light bar (1).pdf Best pricelist of LED WORK LIGHT.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Those are some very cheap lightbars! I might just be tempted into a small one if someone were to order some up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Yep there the ones I have too, bloody well made products and massive amounts of light output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deej Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Do these look like the same model? http://www.zxlight.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=99&product_id=546 They look very similar to the ones in the .pdf Jason attached. If so how much did you pay for the 72W light bar if you don't mind me asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yep that looks the same, paid £100 delivered by fed ex but now cheaper as that was a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deej Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Thanks. Also I'm not really sure how you could tell without some destructive testing but I'm wondering what the actual IP rating is for these. I've seen identical looking products on various websites/ebay etc and the rating varies from IP65 to IP68, so I assume the sellers are just making their own numbers up. I'm very tempted to jump on this LED bandwagon but I'd be a bit miffed if they blew up after being submerged in a ford or something. If they are only IP65 that sounds quite possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 The factory spec says 67 and mine were happy lighting up the bottom of the water butt for 10 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deej Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 That's good enough for me! I'm definitely thinking spot rather than flood pattern, but not sure between 72W and 120W. From hunting around it seems that the 120W ones can be had for only 20-30 quid more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 HI Matt, Could you please explain what this 'CRI' is that you speak of? And low and high amounts of it? Or did you mean Cree? Hoss With LEDs you really do get what you pay for. I run the UK lighting division for a large electronics company and we work with all the top names in LEDs. Lots of the low cost stuff is using low quality LEDs with very low CRI (as per the post from Simon above). They also tend to be very blue, this is because the cooler white , low CRI LEDs offer more flux (lumen output) for less money . The driver electronics (power supply), optics and heatsink are all areas that make the difference between a good product or a bad one regardless of what LED is used. On the plus side even the low quality stuff should last 10,000+ hrs and that's a long time in defender driving hrs. A good thing with LEDs is the ability to use optics to focus the usable light to get maximum light extraction in the place you want it. High CRI LEDs are now becoming available and the cost is coming down . LED performance is always getting better and now parts are available at performance above 150 lumens per watt . Light output is measured in lumens not watts. A poor quality 50w LED spot light might kick out less light vs a high quality 25w LED spot. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think it's colour rendering index - the variation of the colour of light given off by two 'identical' LEDs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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