Shackleton Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Half hoping I'm jumping to conclusions but it looks like my D2 has won the battle. The sump is empty and I can't imagine where the oil is getting out other than from between the head and the block. Either the head died or I didn't hit the torque angles as well as I thought I did. Looks like it'll be push bike for the coming months, my business is barely feeding me at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Oh bloody hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Trying not to loose my **** here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave88sw Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 ive never seen a td5 do that before, are you sure you havent lost the plastic bung out the front of the head? its amazing how the fan blows it about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 The good news is that the oil filter adaptor cracked. The bad news is I'm a plonker. In my defence I'd never heard of that. You can see it in the photo, but much more difficult with the naked eye unless the engine is running, at which point it flows like an open wound. I was meticulous with the torque wrench and the gasket was new, plus it's been maybe 3k miles since. It must have been fatigued and the sub zero cold snap probably didn't help. Thanks zander and Dave btw lads there's an interesting thread on aulro where a guy did away with the centrifuge altogether, fitted a motorsport type remote cartridge adaptor to the conventional filter housing and uses a ford Z9 filter with greatly increased access and an anti drain valve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Is that rtv sealer in that joint ? I'd try and avoid using it on any oil retaining gasket , if a piece comes loose it can find it's way into the oil galleries. I heard of a Tdi that had some get as far as the piston spray jet blocking one and causing piston meltdown hth Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Over torquing the bolts wouldn't have caused that crack. It looks like the housing has been walloped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studmuffin Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hope you get it sorted buddy and just as important I hope work picks up soon. I am sure everyone on the forum is thinking of you. Lots of us have been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not RTV Steve it's Hylomar 3400, the stuff spec'd for the cam carrier and there's only coolant behind that joint so it should be ok. It's only supposed to go off when in contact with metal in an anaerobic condition so I think that means that anything outside a joint stays relatively soft. I must check that tomorrow. Thanks though, it's another odd but scary example of stuff that can go wrong. Maybe I dropped it Nick, but I don't remember anything like that. Given it's oozing yellow liquids now I'd say it must have been passing when the young priest jumped out the window at the end of the Exorcist. It is satan's chariot after all. I can't wait for the day I can get back in the RR. Thanks stud I actually did a bit of cold calling this afternoon and there's at least one promising lead. fingers crossed PS I've had to buy a fairly grubby looking used housing off ebay, hopefully it's in decent nick. Interestingly enough the listing said "no signs of cracks" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Ah cool , and btw good news finding the leak , probably should have said that before . Hope this is a sign that things are better than you thought all round cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 A beautiful day here today so I took the opportunity to prep for the parts arriving. This crack seems so odd to me, there's no sign of it on the face of the housing. Oh and btw there's still at least 4L of oil in a Td5's sump even when it's not registering on the dipstick. FYI: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 You did well to spot it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 I was that close to setting a match to the car that I just said f'it and ran the engine to see if i could see it. The oil instantly started gushing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 looks like a fault in a dodgy casting perhaps? well done for spotting it. There looks to be a couple of other weak points where shrinkage or fatigue has caused a few marks on the machined face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 do you have a link to the thread about doing away with the rotor filter assembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 No pictures though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It usually only takes a litre or 2 (at most) to move oil level between min and max on a dipstick. So 4 litres left in sump when not registering is about right I would say. And doubt it would be catastrophic unless you were driving for a while with the oil light on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 No pictures thoughSome rather strong views on filtration coming out here...Glad you found the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 So it seems it would now be a rather minor low point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydie Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Ohhhhh Mo, that comment was well below the belt, or dipstick ! and I agree with all the above, there is no way a 10mm head bolt would crack that casting, I guess George you just had a shoddy casting or at some stage it has been given a wack or has been dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 yep, back to normal. I'm just trying to make a proper start for myself this year and got a fright because I need transport for my equipment. This car has persistently found new ways to test my resolve. Anyway, yeah I'm a little red in the face that I instantly presumed the worst but if you saw the list of work and time I've put into this thing, it's ridiculous. Thinking about it now put me in mind of Murphy's Law and I found this great quote from Alfred Holt. I think it relates pretty well to my trouble, if not to the original idea of LR's in general: "It is found that anything that can go wrong [at sea] generally does go wrong sooner or later, so it is not to be wondered that owners prefer the safe to the scientific .... Sufficient stress can hardly be laid on the advantages of simplicity. The human factor cannot be safely neglected in planning machinery. If attention is to be obtained, the engine must be such that the engineer will be disposed to attend to it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Murphy's lawWasn't meMo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspark Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 ... or the alternative simplified version to Alfred Holt ... http://static.fastcommerce.com/content/ff80808117344aab01173bff19b832cd/FreeMerchant/80l23is.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 there's a url for the meaning of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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