Naks Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) I think the issue is that each TR mode has a specific engine map, so that means different emissions profile. But yeah, this is why my mate struggled the first time off-road - none of us knew about this and just assumed that once he set the TR mode, it would stay there. Edited September 26, 2020 by Naks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 7:24 PM, Naks said: I think the issue is that each TR mode has a specific engine map, so that means different emissions profile. But yeah, this is why my mate struggled the first time off-road - none of us knew about this and just assumed that once he set the TR mode, it would stay there. This thread has solved the mystery of why my Mini doesn't stay in sport mode then! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 hours ago, landroversforever said: This thread has solved the mystery of why my Mini doesn't stay in sport mode then! Yup. Any new car requires a bit of pre-flight button flipping (drive mode, stop/start, lord knows what else) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 15 hours ago, landroversforever said: This thread has solved the mystery of why my Mini doesn't stay in sport mode then! my cupra when put into cupra mode, only stays in cupra suspension & steering when the ignition is cycled, you have to re activate cupra mode for the throttle map 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 hours ago, elbekko said: Yup. Any new car requires a bit of pre-flight button flipping (drive mode, stop/start, lord knows what else) With my Land Rover 110, I do have to hold down my pre-heat button for a while before I start it. That's already more button pressing than I like. You can keep your new cars! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) ZA review at a local 4x4 trail, with an old 110 accompanying him. I've done this trail once or twice, and it's NOT as easy as it looks, especially seeing that we've had torrential rains in the past few months & weeks. Edited October 8, 2020 by Naks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Pity he found South Africas most anal Defender owner to join him, obviously didn't want to spill any from the freshly filled salt & pepper pots 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Nice to see one with the rear locker used off-road. The TFL guys just took delivery of their base-spec 110, with only the off-road options selected: Should be interesting what they do with it, they were talking about Moab, so should be fun to follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 hours ago, elbekko said: Nice to see one with the rear locker used off-road. The TFL guys just took delivery of their base-spec 110, with only the off-road options selected: Should be interesting what they do with it, they were talking about Moab, so should be fun to follow. I think they're going to regret getting that front middle seat instead of the fridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason110 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 2:53 PM, elbekko said: Nice to see one with the rear locker used off-road. The TFL guys just took delivery of their base-spec 110, with only the off-road options selected: Should be interesting what they do with it, they were talking about Moab, so should be fun to follow. Just watching those guys and came across this 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Bad driving, bad recovery, many scratches, why couldn't it drive out? https://www.facebook.com/mark.platt.92/videos/4076203022396020/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Eightpot said: Bad driving, bad recovery, many scratches, why couldn't it drive out? https://www.facebook.com/mark.platt.92/videos/4076203022396020/ I wonder why the tractor kept the arm so high?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 8:51 AM, jason110 said: Just watching those guys and came across this There's a follow-up to this: basically after 24 days of ownership, it's been at the dealers for 20 of them! Because the case has a bit of a profile, JLR sent an engineer to sort it out. At the time of filming, all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't get Humpty Dumpty working properly again! A bit of a confidence killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 It is pretty sad when a factory engineer can't figure out the problem after a week. With an engine that has been in production for a couple of years. Imagine being a normal owner, where your only hope is the barely over minimum wage monkeys to troubleshoot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 20 hours ago, Red90 said: It is pretty sad when a factory engineer can't figure out the problem after a week. With an engine that has been in production for a couple of years. Imagine being a normal owner, where your only hope is the barely over minimum wage monkeys to troubleshoot. The problem could be the computer programmer who decided that light had to come on any time a cylinder misfires. The environmental cost of chasing that problem has been a kazillion times higher than ignoring it - but you can't ignore a light which implies imminent danger! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, deep said: The problem could be the computer programmer who decided that light had to come on any time a cylinder misfires. The environmental cost of chasing that problem has been a kazillion times higher than ignoring it - but you can't ignore a light which implies imminent danger! You think your brand new luxurymobile that you spent a normal person's yearly salary on should misfire and be ignored? Do you work for LR QC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The thing is, how many of us are surprised by this? I was expecting more instances of this sort of thing, and I suspect it is happening, but the motoring press have been charmed and decided to favour this model, so I strongly suspect the reliability issues will be hidden or at least not reported from a combination of bias, personal benefits for journalists, and them not wanting to admit their gushing praise was ill founded. I’ll bet there are many hundreds, even thousands of normal owners with no voice and no clout being given the runaround over faulty Pretenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The Facebook groups would not suggest that this is the case. I’ve only seen one case where a vehicle had a gearbox loom fault and was replaced. Other than that there are lots of infotainment glitches (recent update seems to have helped with many of these) and the odd trim issue (A pillar rattle recall for example) but nothing serious. Of course I’m not sure how much of a representative sample the groups are, though there is a wide range of owners from the commercial contractor users through to people with the top spec 22” rim “more money than taste” versions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 23 hours ago, Red90 said: You think your brand new luxurymobile that you spent a normal person's yearly salary on should misfire and be ignored? Do you work for LR QC? Nice one. They didn't even know it had misfired until they plugged a diagnostic tool in. Quelle horreur! My new car is only 99.999999999999999999% perfect. It must be replaced!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 And two weeks with a factory engineer flown around the world and they can't fix it. What a fabulous machine to take deep into the bush. Maybe if you have a big YouTube channel, LR will long line in a repair team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Yesterday the club went to the dunes, one of the guys brought his ND. I was expecting it to get stuck often, but it ran rings around all of us. The only time he got stuck was when he tried deliberately to do so by doing a short run-up and to test extended mode + ATPC. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Beautiful shot Naks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, landroversforever said: Beautiful shot Naks! thanks! I posted a link to the video here: You will see how most vehicles struggled in the soft sand, and how the ND didn't. Edited December 18, 2020 by Naks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Beautiful location and photography. The new model should do well, with all those electronic gadgets - that’s the whole point. The worry is the reliability and the lack of adaptability of the vehicle. Not much risk for him taking it to a place like that with so many other vehicles alongside, but would you venture out alone in one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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