landroversforever Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 I'm not entirely sure it's a relevant post at all. Something for @western or @Retroanaconda to weigh in on. It's the surname of a chap who lost multiple children to a downright dangerous vehicle and I believe did time for it. Both personally and with my moderator hat on, think it's an unfair comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 56 minutes ago, landroversforever said: I'm not entirely sure it's a relevant post at all. Something for @western or @Retroanaconda to weigh in on. It's the surname of a chap who lost multiple children to a downright dangerous vehicle and I believe did time for it. Both personally and with my moderator hat on, think it's an unfair comparison. I have hidden the orignal ref & removed the quoted text from Junglies reply. we do not needto dig up thepast, that particular incident was well coveredby the press at the time. we do not need to drag it back up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, landroversforever said: Are you sure they're actually sat down on the wheel face correctly? Which type of drive flange bolts have you got? Coat the face of the hub with a thin coat of copper slip and bolt the wheel up, then remove and check the wheel is fully covered and you can see the full outline of the wheel on the hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 the wheel looks damaged where I've marked in yellow, looks to not be sat fully down & the drive member bolts have struck the inside faces. there are 2 styles which look similar Boost 90/110 & Deep dish which I believe is a Discovery fitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 The Deepdish wheels were available on Defenders too, as they're a higher rating than a Freestyle they can also go on a 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 43 minutes ago, western said: the wheel looks damaged where I've marked in yellow, looks to not be sat fully down & the drive member bolts have struck the inside faces. there are 2 styles which look similar Boost 90/110 & Deep dish which I believe is a Discovery fitment. I'm going to have all 4 wheels off over the weekend and do some in depth examination. Wondering if you may be right and the hub flange bolts are interfering with it sitting properly because it seems to be a little loose again already on the driver's side (and I've driven 5 miles tops) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 That's not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Buy a set of cheap modulars the right width for the tyres and swap them. Peace of mind and safe use restored, allowing more time to move the project on? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossberg Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 hours ago, landroversforever said: Are you sure they're actually sat down on the wheel face correctly? Which type of drive flange bolts have you got? They are the standard hex head bolts. I am quite sure they are sitting flat on the face but I will look on the back face for witnesses marks. I certainly feel happy they are sitting flat as I wouldn't be happy if I thought they were being held off, even slightly. I have a set of wheel spacers that I have not fitted yet- they won't sit flush without filing a tiny amount off (and I mean a tiny amount as wouldn't entertain taking any real meat off them) and that isn't like that on my boosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, western said: That's not good. A masterly understatement... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, steve b said: Buy a set of cheap modulars the right width for the tyres and swap them. Peace of mind and safe use restored, allowing more time to move the project on? Steve When you say "modulars" what do you mean, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, western said: the wheel looks damaged where I've marked in yellow, looks to not be sat fully down & the drive member bolts have struck the inside faces. there are 2 styles which look similar Boost 90/110 & Deep dish which I believe is a Discovery fitment. Bear in mind that it all came terribly loose so stuff was flapping around with quite a lot of load on it, even if just for a few moments... I think that could be where the damage arose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 After market steel wheels , these on eblag now £90... Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mossberg said: They are the standard hex head bolts. I am quite sure they are sitting flat on the face but I will look on the back face for witnesses marks. I certainly feel happy they are sitting flat as I wouldn't be happy if I thought they were being held off, even slightly. I have a set of wheel spacers that I have not fitted yet- they won't sit flush without filing a tiny amount off (and I mean a tiny amount as wouldn't entertain taking any real meat off them) and that isn't like that on my boosts. There’s a mixture of ‘standard’ for the drive flange bolts. Some later stuff used flanged heads with a smaller hex. These have better clearance to the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, steve b said: £90.. A bargain to save your life, or someone else's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 I seem to have missed this. I’m quite vocal about how much I hate spacers, diddnt like the idea when I fitted them and then this happened the nuts holding them to the hub had come loose resulting in the wheel(and spacer flying off while going around a corner. Luckily for me, it was a quiet road and I had a run off of sorts and most important, luckily for others the wheel, a not light 33-12.50R16 BFG MT, ended up in a field. I ordered some steel wheels with a larger offset to suit my needs as soon as I parked the truck up. Spacers have their place, I just don’t think that place is on a heavy landrover. I know many people who have been ok with spacers for years but at the time this truck was well maintained and checked regularly. Food for thought I think @landroversforever still has the offending spacer at his place 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, dangerous doug said: I seem to have missed this. I’m quite vocal about how much I hate spacers, diddnt like the idea when I fitted them and then this happened the nuts holding them to the hub had come loose resulting in the wheel(and spacer flying off while going around a corner. Luckily for me, it was a quiet road and I had a run off of sorts and most important, luckily for others the wheel, a not light 33-12.50R16 BFG MT, ended up in a field. I ordered some steel wheels with a larger offset to suit my needs as soon as I parked the truck up. Spacers have their place, I just don’t think that place is on a heavy landrover. I know many people who have been ok with spacers for years but at the time this truck was well maintained and checked regularly. Food for thought I think @landroversforever still has the offending spacer at his place Looks like we were both bloody lucky not to kill anyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, steve b said: After market steel wheels , these on eblag now £90... Steve Thanks Steve. My workshop is currently full of wheels that don't fit (90/RRC/Disco alloys), wheels that fit but have borked tyres (steels) and gearboxes that don't fit. But I think I may need to make space for these - you reckon they'll take the tubless tyres on the Boosts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 I reckon some ET0 Wolfs will sort you out, Doug.... And some ET0 One Ton replicas will sort you out, Junglie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said: I reckon some ET0 Wolfs will sort you out, Doug.... And some ET0 One Ton replicas will sort you out, Junglie. You wouldn't happen to be selling a set, would you? Because if so... (And yes I know there are loads on EBay, but I'd rather by from folk on here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 I'm pretty sure all Modular style rims are tubeless. How big are the tyres you have? Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Junglie said: You wouldn't happen to be selling a set, would you? Because if so... (And yes I know there are loads on EBay, but I'd rather by from folk on here) No afraid not, I have a set of Boosts I need to get rid of but I'd refuse to sell them to anyone with early axles at this point....(obviously you're not looking for those). I just think the One Tons will suit the look/age of yours the best and I like spending other peoples' money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, steve b said: I'm pretty sure all Modular style rims are tubeless. How big are the tyres you have? Steve They're 235/85 R16s And yes, I believe you're right on the tubeless part, having done some digging as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglie Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said: No afraid not, I have a set of Boosts I need to get rid of but I'd refuse to sell them to anyone with early axles at this point....(obviously you're not looking for those). I just think the One Tons will suit the look/age of yours the best and I like spending other peoples' money. This is rapidly turning into the ,most expensive cheap Landy ever. But I also think you're right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said: I reckon some ET0 Wolfs will sort you out, Doug.... And some ET0 One Ton replicas will sort you out, Junglie. Is that a joke regarding my other thread?😂 this happened about 4 years ago and I bought some 16x10 -32 modulars…..and 37” treps to go with them😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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