rob90 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hi Im going to fit a toad immobiliser for peace of mind to my 200 tdi 90. It immobilises two circuits, I was thinking for one of the circuits the white wire off the pump? But for the second circuit I have no idea so any sugestions? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 starter circuit the last turn on the key dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 The switched ignition feed so whilst its immobilsed there will be no dash light at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 i fitted a battery safty cut-out, without the supplied key all's dead no electrics anywere, very basic i know but works.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Tonkin Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 i fitted a battery safty cut-out, without the supplied key all's dead no electrics anywere, very basic i know but works.. What, not even the immobiliser has a feed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hi Im going to fit a toad immobiliser for peace of mind to my 200 tdi 90. Fitting an immobiliser to my tdi wouldn't give me any peace of mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave88sw Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 immobilisers dont stop them, most thives hotwire vehicles at the ignition switch and where do most immobilisers connect? in my opinion the battery isolator is the best method, it isolates everything, although you can run permanent feeds too, ive got one for my stereo's back up power so it doesnt forget all its stations, when detering thieves, do things that take time to bypass cos at the end of the day, if it takes too long to get it started, they're gonna give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM_110 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 +1 for the battery isolator. I got a pair with battery extension leads for £9 off Fleabay as new take off parts, one for each battery [split charge]. Easy to remove the keys, easy to hide the sockets, cheap for replacement keys, and a pain in the arse to bypass. Cheap and effective security all round. Now all I need to do is remember the keys when I leave the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 where do most immobilisers connect? Well, not wishing to give away the big secret, between the switch and the engine. Hotwireing at the switch would have no effect, it is that which immobilisers protect against. In fact it would be ever-so easy to overcome the regular Cat2 type immobiliser on a Tdi. I would guess I could have the engine running in about 30 seconds. Less if I were prepared. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Well, not wishing to give away the big secret, between the switch and the engine. Hotwireing at the switch would have no effect, it is that which immobilisers protect against.In fact it would be ever-so easy to overcome the regular Cat2 type immobiliser on a Tdi. I would guess I could have the engine running in about 30 seconds. Less if I were prepared. Chris Yes, if you knew the fuel pump was isolated you could clip a wire from any +12v to the fuel pump. A battery isolator and padlocking the battery box is harder to get around. Couple that with a bonnet lock like older 90's (£30 ish) and something that makes a loud noise. Rob, since thieves like to operate at night why not put the output on the lighting? Also makes it harder to find a permanent +12v to hotwire off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob90 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Thanks for youre input. just bought anothe isolator for the main battery, after weighing the job up and the pros and cons I might just send it in for a good quality alarm Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJIbex Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I have both an immobiliser and battery cut out; the immobiliser activates about 30 seconds after the ignition is switched off. So if you switch off the ignition then imediately cut the power with the battery cut off, the immobiliser is left in an unset state. Then you can leave the vehicle for however long, then just switch the battery isolator and then just start without the imobiliser fob. Therefore make sure the imobisler has set before you cut the battery isolator. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 i know people are recommending the battery isolators .....and i've fitted one myself on the 90... but would a well prepared thief not have one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Tonkin Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 i know people are recommending the battery isolators .....and i've fitted one myself on the 90... but would a well prepared thief not have one? I passed a switch of this type on my off-road buggy the other day. I couldn't find the key so I un-did the 2 nuts put both wires on one stud and then tightened. They are not a theft deterrent unless maybe hidden inside a security cubby (including all obvious wiring) I would hazard a guess that most stolen Defenders are taken away on tow trucks like most stolen cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I passed a switch of this type on my off-road buggy the other day. I couldn't find the key so I un-did the 2 nuts put both wires on one stud and then tightened. They are not a theft deterrent unless maybe hidden inside a security cubby (including all obvious wiring)I would hazard a guess that most stolen Defenders are taken away on tow trucks like most stolen cars. No, most newer cars are stolen by obtaining keys - houses are easier to break into than cars. Obviously defenders are the exception since a 5 year old could hot wire it. Mutiple security devices are the only solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Unfortunately if they want it they will take it, the only thing you can do is slow them down enough so maybe they get caught in the act. Another option to think about is a cat 3 mechanical immobiliser like a Meck Lock, this disables the clutch by way of a valve and although it can be bypassed it takes time and tools not readily at hand to the opportunist theif. As soon as the theif tries to drive the vehicle and depresses the clutch, the pedal stays on the floor and even if they pull it back up the clutch is still disengaged. Combine this with a hand brake lock and or a pedal lock and it will really slow them down. Meck Locks are available from Mudstuff (No association etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieEater3142 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Can people recommend a keyed battery issolator that would be suitable for 200a feed - i have alot of ancillaries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Two-Jacks Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I have been thinking about this.Would it be possible to fit a mercury tilt switch or something like that in the horizontal and obviously a method of deactivation linked to the mother of all horns or alarm klaxon type things and then if the vehicle was tilted or driven away on a low loader the inertia would activate the alarm. This would make their low loader rather conspicuous on the road? Just a thought Phase 2 come the poison gas and distress flares...just kidding but couldn't one of you wiring gods of the forum make the above into an effective deterrent? Back to my shed now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Two-Jacks Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I have a removable steering wheel, security post,two isolators,and big FO anti cut lorry wheel clamp and the nosiest neighbours in England and possibly Europe. However I know that if they are determined they will take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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