Young bobtail Rhys Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 We have managed to leave our locking wheel removal nut thingy on the wing and have driven off without knowing! As you would expect it isn't there any more Has anybody got any idea's of how I can get all four nuts off without damaging the wheels as they are alloy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 You need a sacrificial socket that's just too small to fit over the nut - hammer it on and undo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 clicky I keep menaing to a general set of these hammer on reverse thread babies for general nut / bolt removal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Humphreys Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 With one of these Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Cheers guys, I shall give the smaller socket technique a go first, and if not successfull, buy that kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tear it up Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Do you happen to remember the letter that was stamped on the back of the locking wheel nut?? If so you can buy them individually from the main dealers or I have seen them on eblg. It might be worth checking on any paperwork you have as sometimes they may have put it on the original bill of sale etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Depending on what style of wheel it is, a small Stilson can work wonders too Doesn't work with the ones where the nut is recessed into the wheel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Nope, can't remember anything that was on the back of it and unfortunately there are freestyle alloys so are recessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Go to your local dealer, they should have the full set there, they might lend you one (or rather, allow you to try them all out until you find the one that fits) then wander over to the parts desk and order one. just thought... this is assuming it's a genuine LR locking nut, you know the type... the ones that split when you put any kind of leverage onto them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troddenmasses Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I had exactly the same problem a couple of years ago, and was looking at the emergency removal tool thingies. In the end, I bought one of these and one of these and chose the one that fit perfectly. They worked really well, only cost £30 ish, and I was left with a nice set of flat drive sockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 If they are genuine part then go to the dealer as advised above. Otherwise go to your local tyrefitters. Ask them to remove them for you. They usually have the tool to do it. My eldest did this with his Peugeot. Cost him £5 to have all four locking nuts taken off. Take some proof of ID and proof of ownership of the vehicle with you as they may refuse to do it otherwise! Then go & buy yourself a set of new ones. Suggest you don't leave it too long as if you have a puncture (unless you are in the AA/RAC etc as they also carry the removers) you are going to be in a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 With one of thesePaul Nice to know that you can buy anything you need to counter security systems! Hope you managed to get them off Rhys. BMW stealer told me that they would have to use a small socket on my car when the nut started to strip so it must work I guess. Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Luke_ Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Air Chisels work wonders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Locking wheel nut removal tools will do just about any locking nut (you will need an air powered impact gun too) - the socket technique can work but it depends on the type of locking nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbarclay Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I bough a RRC for spares which had 2 locking wheel nuts on it and no key. The locking wheel nuts though are steel so I just welded old bolts onto them (didn't need much weld) and just used a nomal socket on the bolt head. The Alloys didn't suffer as I just put a bit of tin round the nut to protect them from splatter. If I still wanted the locking nuts then I could have ground the welds and they would still have been usable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 socket technique can work but it depends on the type of locking nut. Indeed. If you have these type of locking wheel nuts... ...then you can dig out the serial number that came with the wheel nut socket/key thingy and this will allow you to get another replacement socket. The pattern is supposed to be reasonable unique and is identified by the serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 It should be getting all sorted this Saturday as a friend of ours has got a set of the "special" sockets. If this doesn't work then, I'll be back! I will post up how we get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 We tell all our clients to throw the things away and fit normal wheel nuts. In the UK, wheels are stolen. In SA wheels are stolen but with the car attached to it. And nothing can ruin your day more than to be deep in the bush somewhere, get a flat and then find you can't get the wheel off. We have known Discos to be put on a truck and brought back to civilisation at great expense just because of a broken wheel nut socket. And they will break .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 We tell all our clients to throw the things away and fit normal wheel nuts. In the UK, wheels are stolen. In SA wheels are stolen but with the car attached to it. And nothing can ruin your day more than to be deep in the bush somewhere, get a flat and then find you can't get the wheel off. We have known Discos to be put on a truck and brought back to civilisation at great expense just because of a broken wheel nut socket. And they will break .... In the uk we have pikey's, they steal shiny things but not cars. Nothing can ruin your day more than finding your car resting on its discs and finding the insurance will only replace with standard wheels and tyres - less the excess of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 One of many reasons I don't wish to have alloys on a Defender. Makes it more attractive for theft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantd5 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Indeed. If you have these type of locking wheel nuts... ...then you can dig out the serial number that came with the wheel nut socket/key thingy and this will allow you to get another replacement socket. The pattern is supposed to be reasonable unique and is identified by the serial number. I had a similar problem and i did what Andyb says here. On the contrary I think the mechs tighten them too hard!! I broke 2 of mine (with a coded Alphabet on) Illiteracy led me to buy over 4 sockets with different alphabet each time. Anyway I did warn them when changing to winter tyres NOT to tighten it to death!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I know I’m resurrecting this post 😂 but I found it very helpful today,the actual nut itself started coming away. The key (four pins) started buckling and eventually chipped away at the holes on the nut. So the 3/4 size socket was hammered on and het presto !! Thanks again for the great info as always. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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