Les Brock Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well the Hitler'sguys from the ministry has been iin touch......and decreed yes I do now need an SVA, even though it was Hybridised before all the changes re points etc.. So just exactly how the fupp am I going to get a Challenge built 88 through an SVA test....? So please form an orderly qeue for parts etc... seriously though the only options are.... New Vechicle Try the SVA route Off Road only and trailer everywhere split to the 4 corners of the country....... so if your in the same boat as me....just wait for the new MOT.....it will affect you ! Sorry I'm now sulking...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Why did this happen then - did you just take it for MOT & get told it would need an SVA or did you bring it upon yourself by asking them? If you SVA it as a commercial vehicle the test suddenly becomes a LOT easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 Baically when you submit said truck for a MOT it has to match exactly whats on the registration doc.... IE... colour, fuel type, body type etc....mine was down as Petrol and now has a TDi in it, so I had to get the Reg doc changed.....and the rest as they say is history..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Go the SVA route Are you still going to stretch it back to 100" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 so did you change the reg doc before the ticket Les? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 so did you change the reg doc before the ticket Les? No went for MOT and told it could'nt go through as it was the wrong fuel type....so I had to get it changed...sent of the doc....and 3 months later I've got the great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 have you tried taking it to a sensible MOT station? they might be able to offer some advice... my white hardtop defendder cam up as a blue pick-up when i had it MOT'd but they can edit it...... if they say they can't change anything they're either lying or dont know what they are doing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Sounds like it's a bit late for that. My commiserations Les- i know you must be Mildly miffed right off. Is there any chance of you pushing it through SVA on a truck ticket- you do only have two seats and truck bed after all. nick and john both know much more about this than i do so you will be better off speaking to them. Alternatively you sometimes see 88 rolling chassis for sale- could you get a 88 diesel rolling chassis and cut it down to size, fit all the bits and then MOT it? you might blag it! or howabout SVA'ing it with a V8 in, and then changing the engine afterwards? I guess you might have the same problem then if you weren't careful. It seems an awful shame to trailer it everywhere - you would lose half the fun of going to events i reckon- and it would get trashed much quicker! Anyways i hope you get something sorted out either way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 No went for MOT and told it could'nt go through as it was the wrong fuel type....so I had to get it changed...sent of the doc....and 3 months later I've got the great news Les, what about an I.D. swap? Most of the big 4x4 specialists have stacks of V5s and I'm sure one of them will have one for a 200 tdi 90 truckcab........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02GF74 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well the Hitler'sguys from the ministry has been iin touch......and decreed yes I do now need an SVA, even though it was Hybridised before all the changes re points etc.. So just exactly how the fupp am I going to get a Challenge built 88 through an SVA test....? So please form an orderly qeue for parts etc... seriously though the only options are.... New Vechicle Try the SVA route Off Road only and trailer everywhere split to the 4 corners of the country....... Sorry I'm now sulking...... I don't blame you for sulking; if it is the same SVA that I am reading to get a lotus 7 kit car on the road then it is no mean task (I'm sure I've seen exeptions for off road but not many; again most seem to be with the drive train; obvioulsy none of that applies to me so I haven't taken much interest). I can't imagine why you should need one as the vehicle had type approval - ok, I don't know what other stuff you done than change an engine but still. There was info. going round about our nice & friendlygovernment trying prevent vehicle modifications e.g. putting zetecs into mk2 escorts but it seems now that this has been implemented in an indirect way. With the computerized MOT now in place, there is no way to back out the information logged and this has caused other issues; one example bieing kit cars made from new parts being exempt from MOT for 3 years. Some folks went for an MOT as a pre-check prior to SVA test and then once they were logged on the system, they had to have an MOT after 1 year instead of 3 .... but I digress. I can only suggest you take a good read of the gov website and as much info. from dvla/dvlc to be sure no mistake was made. If it comes to SVA, then it is not that daunting but a lot of time, effort, fortunately not too much money but especially in your case annoyance having to jump through a hoop that you probably should not have to nor planned for. After the SVA, the stuff is not usually tested at MOT and has a tendancy [cough] to call off as it were. (I wonder if there is some loop hole where you can register it abroad then import in back into UK?). If you need the SVA manual; send me PM and I can send you a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdicky Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Bad luck Les So does this mean that if I stuck a TDi in my 90 I'd need to get it SVA'd, or is it just because of the number of changes to your truck? Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 As dodgy as it may be, an ID swap would not be a bad idea - it's not like you're pulling an Arthur Daley or ringing stolen cars. My advice would be to find some old shed of a hybrid with a Q-plate, then you're home dry whatever you do to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Not sure if this helps Les, but I asked at my local MOT station about catflap. Previously registered as a 2.25 petrol, and now a 2.5TD. I too was worried about possible problems. The tester said that they just change the details as requested by the system as it is tested, and that's it. He said changing engines was common, so couldn't see there would be any problem with changing engine that uses a different fuel. Hope I don't get this problem too. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02GF74 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 He said changing engines was common, so couldn't see there would be any problem with changing engine that uses a different fuel.Hope I don't get this problem too. Les. that is how it used to be; see my post about the modfied classics stuff; I can dig up more info about this but IIRC govenrment is trying to stop this kind of stuff as well as putting in coswroths into 1950s Ford anglias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8CAMEL Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 so did you change the reg doc before the ticket Les? rubbish mine is down at the DVLA as a300tdi. The guy just overrode the computer said it was petrol and decided to save any more hassle that it was a 3.5 v8 with a cat. It passed and the mot was issued without a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 There is a clause about power increases and engine changes but young Lesmond has decreased his power... Talk to Fruity he knows more about this than most (including the VOSA people). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 ok then...... ive basicly sold my 90..... but i said i'd get 12 months MOT on it for them. last week i sent the log book off cos i changed the engine from a 3.5 petrol to a 2.5 petrol. it not gone for its MOT yet,... but am i gonna get problems now???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Humphreys Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well if it went for a MOT today, you would have got one as the DVLA MOT computers were down. ALL of them. MOTS done today were hand written and a new printed one issued at a later date. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 my logbook doesnt have an engine cc or an engine number, at this rate Im gonna keep it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 thats a b*****d! I mean, the dutch government had exactly this going on some 20 years ago, I thought I managed to run away from it by emigrating to the uk and now.....here we go again! So which country shall I emigrate to now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 its a nightmare, the whole system, my MOT man told me that basically most series landrovers don't exist on the system, they have to edit all the data... same with the original VW Beetles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Bad luck Les So does this mean that if I stuck a TDi in my 90 I'd need to get it SVA'd, or is it just because of the number of changes to your truck? Richard you would be OK,no need to put yours through any sva/mot after such a change, Tdi engine kits were a factory retro-fit kit for older petrol or diesel 90/110's. you would have to inform dvla of a fuel type & engine number change on your V5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Not sure if this helps Les, but I asked at my local MOT station about catflap. Previously registered as a 2.25 petrol, and now a 2.5TD. I too was worried about possible problems. The tester said that they just change the details as requested by the system as it is tested, and that's it. He said changing engines was common, so couldn't see there would be any problem with changing engine that uses a different fuel.Hope I don't get this problem too. Les. Shouldn't be any problem for Catflap, just a change to the V5 for fuel type & engine number, plus the 2.5TD is a factory fit engine in other LR's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas90 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 My MY1995 NAS90, first registered by Land Rover, has a 3500cc Diesel as cubic capacity and type of fuel! I am not joking and I have not bothered trying to tell DVLA that all NAS90's were 3900cc petrol! BTW my MOT station are happy to test the vehicle as a LPG powered not even asked to see registration document and if they did would ask why the fuel type has changed from diesel! CRAZY or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Youcan get your vehicles history from dvla, at least it would let you double check the info, sounds like either a first reg or dvla foul up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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