The V8 Porn Rebuild Thread

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Injectors are IW058s from a Lancia Interale EVO Turbo, and, Deep joy no longer made.

There are some new ones about at a premium price(s) of £250-£300 EACH + VAT !

Hence me hunting and delay !

Nige

[landroversforever]

Surely there must be injectors from something else with the same flow rates??

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Right then ...lets try again

One of the probs also when it started was a small water leak from the tubes used to link in the

heater system, this was a much modified tube which had then been passivated. Sods law was that when this ws done it

created a flaw - cleaning off a lump of gawd-knows-what on to inside of the tube, then allowing it to weep

Tube and Weep ..............well, I did a Bit

So, another unit found, chopped about to make smaller and to have the routed pipes in Silicon hose saw me

chop up another one, make up some hose retainers, TIG on and remake the "Loop" to allow bigger hose through and

after much faffing at least this should be good for purpose :

Next <gulp> refit injectors, trumpet assembly etc and make accel cable and try again <another gulp>

Nige

[Edlen]

My searching on the web says they are also fitted as a weber part with the same number there some on eBay at the moment http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEBER-390CC-FUEL-INJECTORS-FOR-COSWORTH-RS-TURBO-/190719488467?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c67c471d3

I hope this helps.

[FridgeFreezer]

I'm still with the other guys, there *must* be another injector available that will flow sufficiently.

This is a useful calculator for injector rates, and suggests that something like these should be fairly over-spec for the job - summit sell up to 120lbs/hr just in case...

[zardos]

My searching on the web says they are also fitted as a weber part with the same number there some on eBay at the moment http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2c67c471d3

I hope this helps.

When doing my research for Nige I remember that the green colour tops of these meant that they were in the same range but slightly different to Nige's cream coloured ones, so might not be compatible.

[Landy-Novice]

When doing my research for Nige I remember that the green colour tops of these meant that they were in the same range but slightly different to Nige's cream coloured ones, so might not be compatible.

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&tok=iXLkirI1kVb_DM26pSU4lg&cp=9&gs_id=84&xhr=t&q=cream+paint&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=shop&source=og&sa=N&tab=wf&ei=IfpDUNq-FKGK0AXC74DoAg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=f3c82415a3ddc1b3&biw=1024&bih=666

:ph34r:

[lrcounty]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BOSCH-36LB-FUEL-INJECTOR-LS1-LS2-SUPERCHARGED-V6-XR8-/360210331597?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53de3577cd#ht_1271wt_689

These injectors would possible be good replacements.

Regards

Andre

[CwazyWabbit]

https://www.google.c...iw=1024&bih=666

:ph34r:

ROFL

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Another day on it (Suz away so I'm on Holiday !!) sees it nearer a restart test.

Wiring Loom is now back on and connected up, and a load of other small jobs, but

One of the things I hadn't sorted was a throttle cable,... sort of fairly importnat

The JED Plenum did have a proper looking rod end on the crank, but equally a rather "NON" JED Loking pile of Ali

snot, which I think was added sometime in the past mistreatment period, and was frankly not only as mess, butwhen

I zipped over (Again) to Keith Gotts for a cable it also wasn't much good, the "Hole" for the cable was a mess, and the cable didn't run

true, also the adjustment wasn't there to give full throttle, so a 3 hrs fiddling about with small bits of plate and the TIG (god I love TIG !)

saw a new purpose made linkage which does run in line, and give full throttle.

These are the sorts of things that when you do this sort of engine transplant you ignore as "Nothing much" these nothing muchers take and soak up

vast amounts of time, things you just don't even think of as importnat add up to days and days of faffing, and yesterday when I finished

I did the "Christ is that ALL I've managed to sort today " type self comment.

Today I have another raft of small jobs to finsih properly, but this afternoon I am hoping to get to try to start it up again and see

Nige

[Bowie69]

Fingers crossed for you, Nige

[FridgeFreezer]

I still think you should get it together & bring it to Seven Sisters

[Bowie69]

I don't see why that isn't achievable

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Pah

LOADS done, all lovelerley and sorted

Tried to start engine - battery BOTH have died - (

Jump started it from Off Road Toads Discopotamus, and it started, and lives - on SIX

FFS this is doing my head in (. I think, as do ORT and A mate who was there today with broken leg (nothing to do with me )

thats its fuel, its not coils, wiring as these have been checked, I think its the bloody injectors still - so off Friday to see that nice MR Eales

with my wallet, the cylinders that now don't fire were firers last time - only thing changed ? the bloody injectors

Arrgh

Nige

[CwazyWabbit]

......

Jump started it from Off Road Toads Discopotamus, and it started, and lives - on SIX

....

I think its the bloody injectors still - so off Friday to see that nice MR Eales

with my wallet, the cylinders that now don't fire were firers last time - only thing changed ? the bloody injectors

.....

After one step forward it was 3 back

Took Injectors to be tested and ultrasoncially cleaned and flow checked

of the 8 taken 4 came up ok after terst and clean, 2 fair, 2 dead

Managed to find 4 x secondhand ones for £80

Went back, of the 4 3 came up OK, 1 poor.

So, now had 7

Went back through all the others, after much faffing and work 2 more came up OK, one

......

coincidence?

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

I am thinking "Non"

Bank 2 4 6 8 are all the ones I bought S/H

1 3 5 7 are my old ones, and its 1 & 3 not it seems injecting

I have just ordered a LED Injector plug tester (this "Mimicks a injector to prove power is there ) and will try this

expect to find they (power conectors) are OK as No 3 defo worked last time, No 1 none of us can rememebr

So close, and so very very ****ed Off.......................

Injectors are now, having had a think, and a look, the ONLY part not replaced since rebuild !

Bugger seems to sum it up quite well, to the beers young HFH if that doesn't work I have a nice wall outside the workshop

I can repeatedly smack my head against ................

Nige

[CwazyWabbit]

I wonder if it is a dodgy/intermittent connection in either the wiring loom or the injector itself.

I always find a beer and some sleep normally helps with tricky problems So you are on the right track for sure Nige

[landroversforever]

I don't see why that isn't achievable

The seven sisters site doesn't have a petrol station in the middle so it would be no good for nige!

[Daan]

these flow huuuuge more around 384 CM3/60s !! vs 185 standard V8 ERR722 injector !!

If Only

Maybe it helps fuel consumption....

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

OH FFS

BOTH Batteries have thrown in the towel from mass cranking and recharging, both dea as dead things, take charge won't hold, 2 x Optimas deed

Post here has seen some answers, can't bring myself to by batteries at the crazy monies some are, christ some are £300-400 !!! and if yer alternator

dies and overcharges it will kill a posh battery just as much as a cheapy

So, Mr White wineth, with the cunning idea of as F big and as F cheap as I can get / got

My local Factors (who I have a trade account with) had a few misorders as they are a holding branch for the group, a lookie round saw me exit with

2 x 700amp 80AH Sealed for life bateries that are about (note ABOUT) the same size as the Optimas, but means new mounting tray

Bugger ...........But stupidly cheap, and 3 yrs warranty ...............so thats that bought then for just over £120 + Vat the 2 !

Kin hell, this is getting me down now

<fast show mode on>

"Tommorow I shall be mainly remking a pair of battery mounting trays .............. " (

<fast show mode off>

I have also bitten the bullet and am changing all the injectors for new ones, Bosch ones 460 flow so won't be as the other s were flat out

can reasjust the software to bring into correct levels, I am sick of piddling about with iffy old injectors, and they are not made new anymore

and at £250 for the las of the line stock is plainly insane, so with guidance new ones bought, piggy is looking a tad shocked,

but survives Oh and raped again to pay for batterys so piggy is in hiding now

but as to when these will be fitted for the retry - well I have a ferkin Battery box(s) to fab now#

the injectors picked / recomended were

Bosch "Green Giants" - part number 0280155968

ARGH luckily Suz away this weekend, and I have the local takeawy menus and their phone number in me mobile and they deliver ...............

Nige

[landroversforever]

Deliver... I hope so, they're only a few hundred yards away!

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Never when I started out with tjis conversion did I think I'd be doing new twin battery tray

Its one of those jobs that if I don't take tuime out and get it done properly then it may never get done, so making myself do it properly

This morning was collect 2nd unit, and nip to mates to scounge some metal bits, then back to the inventing shed

for some fabbing and Tigging (TIGging - its not all bad then )

This afternoon I "Found the floor under the seatbox and removed the 2 x batteries "and some dirt"

to modify what I have previously made would take longer then to redo a new one, so started that having found the space avaibale

Batteries are 700 CCA an 80 AH, and there will be 2 x wired together

Have a 90 twin battery base as a start, plus some angle, I have so far made a frame up that hold the 2 x batteries together

and then these will be clamped down to the base (tomm jobbie). I have scallopped around the positive posts to give more

cleaanace and tigged the frame together, so far so good. one really nice thing with these batteries is they have "Flaps"

that when closed down over the terminals give protection from shorting, which I like so have ensured mounting keeps this feature

(only 2 x of the 4 x are on there others removed at the moment)

Hope to have units and clamp jobbie in 90 tommorow plus new wiring done and thn back to the F engine issues !

hey Ho

Nige

[Team Idris]

They look rather nice

Snap; I've got Banner traction batteries on the truck at the moment in old-ford-transit size. They are glass matt gell units, which is a change up in tech for me! Seem good though. They seem happy with the charge diode as well?

I must be on fourth or fifth battery tray? You get used to changing them after a bit. It's probably had more trays than oil filters

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Hmmmm

1 x New set of Green Meanie Big Boy Injectors :

And at least these are both current, eay to get and cheap

Then remove the bl**dy Plenum Trumpet base and get to the fuel rail ...agin

Then out with the old, and in with the new

Then put everything back together and then..................................

http://s1214.photobu...nt=IMG_0266.mp4

And to celebrate mate came over and shoved new hand made sticker on it for me

Few Minor things to sort, needs a second spring on throttle linkages, and a small fuel leak and then a big check over, but IT RUNS

Will do an in Truck Video when all sorted out, but sort of more motivated now than ever

Nige

[landroversforever]

vroom vroom!