landroversforever Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Bolt on Bits sell some sealed beam lights, but I think they are 100w? Hi-Jack As mine is an 84 am I free to put much brighter lights in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 ^^^ Nope no hijack, I'm still unsure re this on an 1985 ? What the legalities then chaps ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Have a read: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/schedule/5/made Basically, you don't need an E mark, and minimum wattage is 30W. I think I have it right, but there's no wattage requirement post 1986, but the bulb must be E marked, which I guess means all E marked bulbs will be 55W Please check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravaigin Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 i dont suppose you could find a link to that wiring upgrade - i had a search and couldnt find it. Just looking at upgrading my lights and that would be perfect in conjunction with better bulbs. I'm an electrical luddite, so a fit and forget product is the safest way of keeping the smoke in. Nick Some info here at Expedition Exchange but its a US site, scroll down the page for more info. Devon 4x4 are one UK supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Do NOt fit 100w bulbs 3 reasons 1/. illegal for on road use 2/. headlamps are not designed for filament position of 100 bulb so most light is wasted as stray 3/. as I said before will fry your dipswitch on column , If you want good lights just relay a standard 60/55w set up , and use good proprietry headlamp eg hella H4, wipac quadoptic, crystal etc . Silicone will waterproof to a reasonable level, if you want to be a submarine then get 75w sealed beams as fitted in RRC and jags and marina Hl etc . and relay feed . Simples! Remember "power is nothing without control" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Do NOt fit 100w bulbs 3 reasons 1/. illegal for on road use 2/. headlamps are not designed for filament position of 100 bulb so most light is wasted as stray 3/. as I said before will fry your dipswitch on column , If you want good lights just relay a standard 60/55w set up , and use good proprietry headlamp eg hella H4, wipac quadoptic, crystal etc . Silicone will waterproof to a reasonable level, if you want to be a submarine then get 75w sealed beams as fitted in RRC and jags and marina Hl etc . and relay feed . Simples! Remember "power is nothing without control" Fleabay link. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I run just the standard halogen conversion bowls bought from Keith Gott's for not alot with 100w halogen bulbs siliconed into them so they dont fill up with mud. I find these more than adequate - in fact they're alot better than the lights on my car! Been running them for years and the dipswitch on my column hasnt suffered any ill effects. I suspect simply the purchase of new reflectors made a big overall difference! You wont need to uprate your wiring and although technically illegal, what copper is going to take your headlight bulbs to check the wattage? I used to run 130w bulbs in my old red rover and never had a problem! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I've had 100w bulbs in my truck for the last 6 years with no problems, i did put plastic headlights in though as the extra heat made the glass ones crack as soon as i hit cold water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 "....although technically illegal....". I'm sure many car stealing oiks share the same interpretation, that laws only matter based on the chance of being caught...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 ... the extra heat made the glass ones crack as soon as i hit cold water. That still happened to me with standard wattage bulbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Scrapyards Another of my hobbies Yesiree thats a strong possibily Are ANY of the ideas above "Sealed Units" ?? Nige I'm very happy with this conversion that I did. The light pattern in front of the landy is much better than it was with the Bosch headlights. The Bosch headlights always had a shadow/dark spot in the center on each lamp, but that is a thing of the past as these VW lights give a more even and wider spread of light. The VW lens are slightly bigger than Land Rover's, I have no idea if that plays any role or not but it is a point that may be used for bragging rights if the need arises. But I did over the years rewire the lights with 12ga wire and have relays on both hi/low circuits. This coupled with clear lens headlamps have transformed the lighting. Plus I use Phillips +50% lamps........ Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Stating the obvious: If you convert to relays then your light switch shouldn't be taking any current anyway hence bulb wattage won't affect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 As I've read recently that the MOT will now included checks that HIDs are not retro fitted (instant fail) then they aren't really an option anymore. I've been running some for a couple of years and found they aren't as reliable as they claim anyway and again with the noddy car, the dip beam is a bit better but the main beam is way too high. Nothing is specifically wrong they just don't work. High power bulbs are just as illegal as HID IIRC in anything built after the mid 80s, and as you say they can be a problem with older wiring, in an older car any gain in light output from the higher current draw is lost because of the voltage drops accross old switchgear and junctions. There is currently no mot failure for retro fitted hid's or high power bulbs, i've not read anything in mot matters about it either. Currently there isn't even a failure for headlights that do not have a beam pattern! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Anyone have part numbers for headlamps (non sealed beams) and in glass and or plastic etc Are they the same fittings ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Dont think there is a LR part number for them as they're an aftermarket conversion, and yes they're a bolt on job and use the same fittings. I shy away from extra relays as its just something else to go wrong when its full of mud! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Was ppoing for a LR Part Number to abuse my position of access to discounted LR Part Nos ??? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Nige, I already gave you the part number for the SVX clear glass headlamps if thats what your looking for ? Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Was ppoing for a LR Part Number to abuse my position of access to discounted LR Part Nos ??? Nige RTC 4615 are RRC Head lamp assembly, for right hand drive models, Quartz halogen bulb type, non head lamp levelling HTH Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 The wipac crystal ones are available from Boltonbits on ebay for reasonable money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Nige, I already gave you the part number for the SVX clear glass headlamps if thats what your looking for ? Todd. Can't fid it Todd ???? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here: VPLDV0002 This is the part number for the SVX 60th anniversary lighting pack rhd version without self levelling. http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/lr/defender/accessories/ Stop messing about man anbd just buy the damn things Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Yuuurgh Thats vtruly vile, but is a complete Kit Just want the P/No for the headlamp itself, not the penile extension covers that go with it Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here is the Part No. VPLDV0012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here is the Part No. VPLDV0012. Ta for the anurizim £80 EACH <gasp> Anyway, I have picked the bones from the above and have today ordered me chosen option, and its cheap But as to bulbs, what are the options, again without selling my Body (mind you the 50p would be handy at the mo ) ?? H4 Halogens, who reckons which and why ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Nige - just stick some 100/90w xenon bulbs in there and be done with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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