Blanco Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Thanks Soren,.... learnt a bit more.... one day I'll get there! ... Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Twig Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 How's this going? I'm eyeing up one to put into my IIa 109, so interested to see how hard/sensible this is before I part with my hard earned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Discovery Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Bump any progress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 Not really much progress at all, i've made a blanking plate for the block so I can use a remote oil filter. And I've cut some exhaust manifold flanges. That's about it really, I have though bought a chunk of aluminum to make my pump adapter out of, but I've not even begun to draw it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned7 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 hey there, great thread. would love to know the weight of the om606, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 245,8Kg http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=83176&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Not much movement in this thread... This is what Jeremy Clarkson said about the E300DT back in 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMuup7QSZI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtrans Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Are these all auto ? I can't see any manuals on auto trader or eBay, I guess the auto would be electronic and will add a lot of complexity, The manual would be much easier but it may be too long for a 90 if run divorced / remote, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 How does a divorced/remote transfer box actually work... Still trying to get my head around it Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 How does a divorced/remote transfer box actually work... Still trying to get my head around it Mat All it means is the transfer box is joined by a short (or long) driveshaft to main gearbox , instead of being direct coupled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick the digger! Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Are these all auto ? I can't see any manuals on auto trader or eBay, I guess the auto would be electronic and will add a lot of complexity, The manual would be much easier but it may be too long for a 90 if run divorced / remote, Dave Only the early non turbo cars got a manual option with 606. Lots of options too run the 722.6 electrionic auto box stand alone as there also used in gm Chrysler vehicles on the US. I bought a stand alone plug and play ecu to run one in a G Wagen from a guy in Denmark for around €500 new, very similar too compushift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRS91 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Like this: Nice example, looks like LT230 behind a NV405? whats the engine and spec of that? any linkys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 This is the thread on Pirate: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-rover/77507-weekend-fun-billster-rockrover-style.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat wilson Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Are these all auto ? I can't see any manuals on auto trader or eBay, I guess the auto would be electronic and will add a lot of complexity, The manual would be much easier but it may be too long for a 90 if run divorced / remote, Dave some very early N/A where manual but the gearboxes are gunk and very rare, all turbo models were auto and well most 606s were auto due to torque they kick out as standard 350nm haha but dont fret there are manual gearbox that bolt up, they come from a C220cdi around 2000+ not sure on cut of date but are 6 speed, they are very strong will stick behind a 400hp and 800nm no problems, also some Sprinter gearboxs fit but are 5 speed when i was looking, they are on cable gear selecters mounted on the side of the box if that would help you, strength is un-known to me the c220cdi box can be picked up fairly cheap, i payed £300 delivered for my low mileage box off ebay Two down points are, the c220s are all due mass and im not sure if there clutch, flywheel combo bolt up to the 606 or how strong they are but if you've come this far i think making a flywheel and clutch combo should be fairly easy, if i remember correctly the in-put spline is 1 on 23 or 24 cant quite remember will look next time im down there, but Quarter master do the right plates the slave is internal and built into the throw out bearing but failry cheap to pick up or again convert to a quarter master one or something if you fancy, i haven't ran the stock part against a uprated high pressure plate but im sure they would be fine My 6 speed is 21" from bell-housing to the out put flange i didnt get a max diameter but they are alot smaller than a lt77 so will fit a land rover tunnel no problems here is one i quickly pulled from ebay pretty expensive but first one i came across http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-C-CLASS-C220-CDI-DIESEL-ONLY-71-000-MILES-6-SPEED-MANUAL-GEARBOX-/350901202628?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item51b3576ec4 and getting the auto box to run out the car would be a night mare i guess unless your are a proper programming geek, as it talks to eveything on the car and i imagine it wouldnt like being on its own it has been done thou, black smoke racing run the newer merc gearbox's with a manual shifter not sure whos electronic controller it is but reliability has been some what lacking but then they are 500hp plus so swings and round abouts, and are now changing to some big ass manual gearbox to handle the torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyt Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 For the people who want to put the om606 in a landrover/rangerover/disco Its quite easy. There is a conversion kit available for about 700 quid. It comes with conversion plate. Engine mounts and exhaust. It's available for Manuel and auto. If you go Manuel you will need a flywheel from a e300td with om603 engine. clutch pressure plate for a mercedes and Mitsubishi friction plate. I have all part numbers. They go on the v8 gearboxes. The turbo has to have the turbo actuator changed from vacuum to boost. Or depending on the hp wanted an holset turbo The fuel pump you need from either a om603 turbo or om606 non turbo both these pumps are mechanical. If you want more power you can have the 6mm elements fitted From the original pump to your mechanical pump. Or even bigger And that's about it to get it running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty_32 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Any idea where you can get the conversion kits from? I'm sure lots of people (including me) would be interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyt Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Www.smt.nu very helpful chap. Based in Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickMac Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are these all auto ?I can't see any manuals on auto trader or eBay, I guess the auto would be electronic and will add a lot of complexity, The manual would be much easier but it may be too long for a 90 if run divorced / remote, Dave[/quot Dave, would one of your autoboxes be ok with the hp and torque from this engine in a challenge buggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick the digger! Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The fuel pump you need from either a om603 turbo or om606 non turbo both these pumps are mechanical. Just to point out for anyone looking for a pump the 606 non turbo only has a mechanical pump in a w124 and these are quite rare having only been produced from 93 to 95 and are also the most desirable pump rs 203 having a bigger camshaft and bearings. All w210 from 95 on (twin headlight model) non turbo or turbo are ecu controlled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyt Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes the pumps are rare in this country. EBay German and American see alot more of these pumps Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 So based on the information about the adapter plates... I'm guessing that if I wanted to retrofit the OM606 into my 200tdi 110 I'd need to find a V8 gearbox or auto box to do so, or would that adapter kit match up to the existing LT77? I'm aware that the LT77 would be almost at its limit regarding torque and power but I'd be looking at keeping the stock power and torque of the OM606 and hopefully the LT77 might suffice. Also, are the engine mounts the same for the 200tdi as the V8 or am I looking at chopping and welding the chassis? Thanks Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyt Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hi not sure on the mounts. You will need a v8 Box. If anyone's interested I have the clutch parts brand New ready. Which . Will sell at what they cost me. I also Work for Mercedes main dealer so can help people out if they need parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat wilson Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I would very very much doubt at lt77 will last behind a 6 cylinder diesel with over 350nm from very low down, trouble is 6 cylinder diesels and up are very hard on gearboxes due to the amount of power strokes per rotation there like jack Hammers basically, a R380 stands a better chance but I still wouldn't relax with that combo in my truck I would be looking for stronger gearboxes, do it right do it once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matfield Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Like you say... When I do it, I'll do it right once. Autobox from V8 disco and have the car I actually want! The main issue I think I'd have would be the mounts, and whether they'll all line up... I don't fancy chopping and grinding the galvanized chassis. Anyone any wiser on 200 tdi LT77 mount positions vs V8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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