skauldy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hi folks, Is the bolts off the beadlock an off the shelf buy. Can you put titanium bolts in for rust prevention. Suppose stainless wouldn't have the strength. Thanks Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 A2 grade stainless is equal to 8.8 mild steel bolts. Can't see why you would need a higher grade than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 A2 grade stainless is equal to 8.8 mild steel bolts. Can't see why you would need a higher grade than that? you mean A4. a2 is much lower than 8.8 tensile strenght. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Sorry, typo, A4 grade is the one that is equivalent to 8.8. its in my ImechE book at work i can double check for you tomorrow although I'm sure that any generic internet search engine would provide a comparison of the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Great, thanks guys. Just to get the wheels now lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 There are atleast two grades of stainless in a4. 70's and 80's, 80's are stronger of the two but I personally wouldn't classify them as equal to 8.8 steel as the two are measured and rated differently however I'm not going to get into the stainless v steel debate as I've made my thoughts known in the past and some will argue till we all get bored. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Mike, if you know where that stainles vs steel thread is, I would be interested to read... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=92429 Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Guys, Possible stupid question but as they say the only stupid question is the one you haven't asked, so on that note, The bolts are hex head for the beadlocks, I was thinking going socket head as I think they are neater. Would their be any disadvantages going socket head. They only one I think of that might effect it is possible the bolt seizing and then the head going round on me when trying to take it off. Am I just being total anal on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 You're more likely to round off the hex in the cap head than you are the hex on a normal bolt for the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Disadvantage of socket head on beadlocks ...... they'll be full of mud (probably hard and dry by the time you get to them ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Would there be any galvanic corrosion issues worse than plain steel if you used stainless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 you mean A4. a2 is much lower than 8.8 tensile strenght. A2 and A4 are just the material designation (304 and 316) the number that follows is the ultimate tensile strength so yes an A2-80 or A4-80 will have the same UTS as an 8.8, however the yield strength is much lower, therefore a lower clamping force. As an aside you also have to be careful with high tensile steel fasteners that have been plated, they suffer from hydrogen embittlement if they havent been baked properly (reputable brands are usually fine though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's going to be a road truck with as many pay and plays as I can. Truck not going to be used in a winch event etc plus I have a 5th beadlock so if one did pop off I'd just change it and wait till I got home. I got the beadlocks at a steal and always fancied a set. Plus hex heads are for tractors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 You really don't want cap heads anywhere exposed to the elements, they will fill up with stuff faster than you can blink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's going to be a road truck with as many pay and plays as I can. Truck not going to be used in a winch event etc plus I have a 5th beadlock so if one did pop off I'd just change it and wait till I got home. I got the beadlocks at a steal and always fancied a set. Plus hex heads are for tractors As far as I'm aware, bead lockers arnt Road legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 But inner tubes are and do the same job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 True Bowie , I was literally tell a guy in work today I bought them and then remembered, hang beadlock aren't road legal. Too late bought now. It's not my Dailey just a toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Dumb question but why aren't bead locks legal or does it depend on type. I have some mach 5 bead lock rims but can't see any reason they should be any different to split rims in terms of legality. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 But inner tubes are and do the same job... not when you run low pressures, the tyre spins & rips the valve..... But i wouldnt know as im only Mildly xtreme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 not something ive experienced even at 5psi on the rear... but each to his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 not something ive experienced even at 5psi on the rear... but each to his own. thats what the pembrokeshire boys said at the welsh extreme, a full set of tubes later & he has beadlocks on his wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Beadlocks are technically speaking not legal, due to their tendancy to get undone. This is mainly because of the flat plate version were the bolts don't bottom out. A split rim is indeed legal, and can be fitted with an insert to create a double beadlock. Its a bit of a strange regulation, because if you have a beadlock were the bolt bottoms out, it wont get undone either. Also, from the research I did on banded wheels, I think the illegal thing only starts to become a problem when the beadlock or wheel actually falls off. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So beadlocks like mine would be legal then. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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