Bomag Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Are there any? I know of QT, Performance and Protection and Tomcat but are there any cage builders in the Southeast? I need a pair of ALRC cages to comp spec, on for an 86" s1, the other for an 88" s2a. Both will be using truck cabs. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Never seen a P+P one in the flesh, but I've personally seen Qt ones. In fact i bought one. And sent it back again.......the bends are 'orrible..... So wouldnt recommend QT ones. Ask SimonR about Tomcat ones - beleive the product was ok, but the customer service sucked. Otherwise i dont know of anyone else in the south who can do it! I beelive there was a guy down bournemouth way that Tony Cordell recommended. Thats why we ended up making our own in the end. That said there was a guy selling flat pack cages at sodbury this year for very reasonable money, and they didnt look bad! Sorry - no details however! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Well, it's not exactly South-East, but Churtsey isn't a million miles from Chris at Exact Fabrication (Northampton I think) - any chance you could pop up there? It's only a couple of hours from Winchester, which is much further away. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Cheers Jon. Do you think your QT was a one off? Or do all QT cages have bad bends? What didnt you like about the bends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 North offroad Shaun will make and send them to you first class work and you get exactly what you ask for rather than an interpretation of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 They use P&P cages on the test vehicles at work, the bends are nice and well formed, and the welding seems good. Not seen a rolled one tho, yet Before using P&P there were some cars fitted with cages that carried the plate "Custom Cages" i have no more info on them or where abouts they are, but as the name implied they were custom, and looked top-drawer The flatpack cages at Sodbury were from Whitbread Offroad they seel on ebay a lot but the cages are not cds or mandrel bent You pays yer money . . . Lewis P.S. Ive got a new Truckcab cage for sale, originally built to suit an 88" chassis, unknown manufacturer but it is log booked and built to MSA spec (or so i was told when i bought it from GB Developments who advertise engines in the LR comics) Its just lying around unused as i have gone station wagon rather than truckcab on the 90. I have the chassis mounts too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Bomag, Chris is pretty busy at the moment but I can give you his number if you like. Tony had his cage made at Stunning's IIRC. They've done a few cages for forum members the most well know were cages for both the Read brothers. You can see Jules testing one of them BIG TIME here . They're not badly priced and fairly local. As with all custom work, make sure whoever does it knows EXACTLY what you want, not what they think you want. Drawing (lots of) and visits during the job are well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Cheers Jon.Do you think your QT was a one off? Or do all QT cages have bad bends? What didnt you like about the bends? I ordered one, and Nigel B ordered one at the same time. They were both as bad as each other. Every time I see the QT stand at a show I go and have a look to see if the bending as improved - it hasnt. Not only were the hoops we ordered not square or parrallel, the actual bends themselves were not good due to deformation of the tube. Properly bent tube should have a smooth radius on the inside of the curve, the QT ones have terrible ripples in them, and dints on the outside of the curves from the bender. Look at the curves on mine or Niges truck (hoops were bent up by us with a manual bender on Nige's driveway) and you'll see smooth curves with no deformation. Considering QT claim to bend their tube with a full mandrell bender IMHO the workmanship is poor. Also bear in mind when pricing up cages, blue band tube when I bought it 2 years ago was £40 odd for a 7m length. I used 2 lengths just to add an external cage to my existing internal rear, so you're probably looking at 4 lengths for a full cage. Thats £160 (at 2 year old prices) of metal before you even start, and i know the price of steel has shot up in the last year! HTH Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Before using P&P there were some cars fitted with cages that carried the plate "Custom Cages" i have no more info on them or where abouts they are, but as the name implied they were custom, and looked top-drawer Probably from http://www.customcages.co.uk Another one not metioned so far is http://www.rollcentre.co.uk And I was sure there was another one called sommat like torque tube but that's an exhaust place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Many thanks to all who have replied. Neither vehicle is movable without a trailer, which makes thins a bit more tricky. Pity about the quality of the QT cages, their prices arent too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I can recommend these guys: http://www.therollcagepeople.com/index.html These guys are a spin off from Safety Devices and are the ones that I rate most from safety Devices. Surely, Safety devices themselves can do you a reasonable cage as well, but when is anyones guess. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Neither vehicle is movable without a trailer, which makes thins a bit more tricky. I know this will sounds like a smartass comment, but if that's the only issue, can you not just beg/borrow/steal a trailer to shift them? Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Mine is a Stunning version. One complaint I have though The front outrigger mounts the cage was welded to the rocksliders and the outrigger I'd have preferred it just mounted to the outrigger as I can't get the rock sliders off now. without cutting/welding the mounts again which I may well have to do. but for the ££ great value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Stunning services cages have saved my life four times 2 x 60mph end over four times and then barrel rolled. 1 x dropped car 15ft squar on it roof. only deflected about 13mm the last time was only a few weeks ago and he was driving every time walked away without somuck as a cut or scratch. he will only make the cage to your car but he does do a collection service.. 07809 273943. Stunning services is one man Pete Barret there can be a small waiting list some times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocKeR Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Stunning Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yep QT Very poor IMHO dreadful quality and the attitude was horrific, sisnce then I have heard the same from others. Safety devices are they bust or in businesses this week ?.... Cages are not really up to much either IMHO As Jon said ones at sodbury / whitbreads looked fair, but saves a load of work, still a load to do, prices not unreasonable. P&P I have seen numerous bits of their dreadfull work, and attitude again, its somewhat "Variable" on the quality front Sadly I didn't / don't know of anyone else whose work I have seen or experienced 1st hand thats why in the end (although we would have paied good money / tried to) made our own Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I can recommend these guys:http://www.therollcagepeople.com/index.html These guys are a spin off from Safety Devices and are the ones that I rate most from safety Devices. Surely, Safety devices themselves can do you a reasonable cage as well, but when is anyones guess. Daan Hmmm Safety Devices. Ordered four cages for customers in, when was it, oh yes that right last MAY with an 8 week delivery time quoted (which was fine at the time) still waiting in November..... though I think they might at last be on their way (they'd better be or they can shove the order up their ar*e as indicated in the "Dear Sir, unless" letter I wrote a few weeks ago) My advice would be don't bother unless you're not planning on needing it for a year because all you'll probably get is a load of excuses about moving to Poland etc etc blah blah. A shame because I'd dealt with the original SD for a number of years and they were always good and fairly quick. I've got details from other suppliers and settled on the P&P ones for any future requirements having heard from a few people who were pleased with theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I've plugged his business before because he used to live nextdoor to me, but Dave at Tornado installed my cage, and since he got his own bender he seems to be able to create anything from tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hmm best not to think about what happens to the rear seat passengers head in that Discovery in a rollover, unless he is wearing a bone dome the head/cage interface could be redecorated in an interesting new colour called "hint of brain" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 You might be right I thought i was actaully a climbing frame to keep the ankle biters happy on a journey Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divster Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I've plugged his business before because he used to live nextdoor to me, but Dave at Tornado installed my cage, and since he got his own bender he seems to be able to create anything from tube. Brilliant, I didn't know there was anybody that close to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Whereabouts in Derbyshire are you? Dave's workshop is just off the A50, my parents place is near Brailsford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divster Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Whereabouts in Derbyshire are you? Dave's workshop is just off the A50, my parents place is near Brailsford. I live between Wirksworth and Matlock and work just outside of Ashbourne. Tornado will be very handy over the next few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 I know Tornado, didnt really think of them due to the distance, it was a long drive home when I bought his commercial!!! In the process of joining SROC, they must have someone that most club members use as most of their stuff is CCV and Comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALFY Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 If you mean Southern Rovers then I think alot of them use Angus + Howard Leat. Run a company called AHL Engineering. Not sure of a phone number but can dig 1 out for you if you require. I think they still trade. Their workshop is just outside Maidstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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