white90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Whats available what have you fitted I'm after one that shuts the engine down and isolates the batteries recommendations and pics gratefully accepted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I've got a standard red key switch, works perfect Bought two more this morning, one for the winch and one for the jump lead anderson plug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Never had much succes with the red key type (why do I keep trying ). Last one almost went up in flames during the MWMC event. Now replaced with a much more suitable unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Those "red" ones wont take winching current for very long The ones LR90 has got are great but not cheap. For MogLite the battery cut-off switch needs to kill the engine too, so I'm using a motorsports battery cut off with alternator protection, and then I'm using a solenoid to enable the electric winch, like warn did/does on their CE wiring kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I'm planning on an FIA master switch for main vehicle electrics / engine cut out and a seperate isolator for the winch but both being operated by the same pull cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I use this on the lightweight: Security battery isolator switch. Removable key in the 'on; and 'off' positions. Includes 2 keys. 100Amps @ 24v, 500A for 5 secs. Very neat when installed and a little bit of security. Probably won't hande winching currents for long though. What do you want to use the switch for? Vehicle battery or winch battery? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush65 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hella PN 4653 5000A at 12V for 10 sec, 100A continuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 From a marine supplier: 350A continuous and 600A for 5 minutes. Good enough for winching. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Whats availablewhat have you fitted I'm after one that shuts the engine down and isolates the batteries recommendations and pics gratefully accepted I use an FIA battrey master switch. Not a bad price at around thirty quid. I get mine from Vehicle Wiring Products but if you have a race shop near they should have them in stock. Page 9 in VWP catalogue. Yes it stops the enging when you switch it off.AFASIK it is the only one that does. If you are using a second battry that you want to have accessories usable all the time please use another type of switch with a different key,that way the FIA switch acts as a security device. Scroll down the page for the really heavy duty ones to use with a winch. I eat rat poison mike I can cause trouble in an empty house !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 From a marine supplier:350A continuous and 600A for 5 minutes. Good enough for winching. Paul I take it that it's waterproof as well and not just splash proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 My reccomendation would be to fit an isolator for the engine & vehicle, but not the winch(es) The switch will loose you about 100A of max current delivery (as it has a small resistance). You already have perfectly good solenoid switches on the winch. Just move them somewhere more secure and isolate the socket into which you plug your winch controller with either a small switch or a relay energised when your ignition is live for example. That way, your isolator switch only has to handle the starter motor current - and general vehicle electrics and allows the max current delivery to your winch. This in turn means that one of the red key isolators is just about up to the job. Switch off the isolator and everything, inc the winch is off. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlandy Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hella PN 46535000A at 12V for 10 sec, 100A continuous. I have one of these - cost about £28 from our local auto electrics place. previously had the little red key version , but that just got a little warm and melted away. I must admit not feeling comfortable about not isolating the winch from the rest of the motor, but thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangoman Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Tony I am fitting one of the FIA switches got it from the gearbox in exeter but also in vehicle wiring products cat,because wanted to protect the alternator at same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjojjas Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I want to use one of these purely for security reasons, Ideally placed somewhere less obvious. I take it that any of the above would suit my purposes fine? Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonfire Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 The Hella type shown above with the metal L shaped key is (or an extremely similar one) is also used on the John Deere tele. forklifts (and Combines IIRC)... if you've got a JD dealer near you, I'm off work for 2 weeks otherwise I could get the part No. That said it would possibly be cheaper from another source. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divster Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I use an FIA battrey master switch.Not a bad price at around thirty quid. I get mine from Vehicle Wiring Products but if you have a race shop near they should have them in stock. Page 9 in VWP catalogue. Yes it stops the enging when you switch it off.AFASIK it is the only one that does. I'm using one of these too for the engine and associated electrics. Desciption by VWP is: Battery isolator switch with alternator protection. Designed to prevent damage to alternator & electrical systems when isolating the battery. Isolates main battery feed as well as the ignition feed, thus preventing engine run on,(obligatory in competition). 10mm terminal studs. It looks like this: The winch is also isolated through this by using it in conjuction with my own version of the Warn Power Interupt Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I'm using one of these too for the engine and associated electrics.Desciption by VWP is: Battery isolator switch with alternator protection. Designed to prevent damage to alternator & electrical systems when isolating the battery. Isolates main battery feed as well as the ignition feed, thus preventing engine run on,(obligatory in competition). 10mm terminal studs. It looks like this: The winch is also isolated through this by using it in conjuction with my own version of the Warn Power Interupt Kit Now that in my opinion is THE way to do it with a winch fitted. I eat rat poison mike I can cause trouble in an empty house !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 You need to fit a cut off properly or you will fry the alternator and she will not stop when the engine is running. Julian. I have small porcelain battery cut offs in the 90 and the racers both run FIA with cab cable pulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I've got a red key type one. It was wired in by someone who better at electrics than me after my first effort let the smoke out.... Not entirly sure how its done but it cuts EVERYTHING although it doesn't take the winching current (I think its been done by taking the feed to activate the winch cut off solinoids from the started battery, not the winch one). Since fitting I've had no problems with battery discharge, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I have one of these Armtech as I didn't want to run cable everywhere, but I don't have a winch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Got on of these to fit for my anderson plugs/jump sockets/leads. Hella Marine. pt number 6ek 002 843-011, red key type, info on box says master switch, seawater proof, type of protection IPX4 [din 40 050] 12v max 1000amps [10 secs] SWITCH also have one already fitted for the Husky winch battery, never had any problems when doing heavy/long winching jobs or this one http://www.hellamarine.com/?t=3&View=FullStory&productID=214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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