Les Henson Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I've got the opportunity to buy 4 x Mach 5's with 2/3rds worn Goodrich M/T tyres - 265/75/16. The guy is open to offers, but I don't know what they are worth. Rims are slightly rusty in places, but otherwise fine. Anyone got an idea to what they might be worth? Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 About £64/tonne according to these people. I am not a fan of Mach 5s. Of course the tyres sound OK, but be aware that by the time they are half worn BFGs tend to work less effectively off road. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Mach5 have thier fans and associated problems with cracking around the spokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Les they have got to be worth £200 for the four , I have always ran Mach 5`s and love em they are as strong as you like , The only problem I have is big stones passing through them when your bogging ,and ripping the brake callipers off . As Tony mentioned they had a problem with welding of the spokes , But this was very early ones , and have been modified for some years now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas90 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Les they have got to be worth £200 for the four , I have always ran Mach 5`s and love em they are as strong as you like , The only problem I have is big stones passing through them when your bogging ,and ripping the brake callipers off . As Tony mentioned they had a problem with welding of the spokes , But this was very early ones , and have been modified for some years now . I have an early set and they have been fine, not ever had a weld failure, leak or balancing issue. I also have the later set with rolled edges, last year a new Mach 5 would set you back £160 with postage and then it needs painting, so if you want to sell them at least £200 for a set of four and do not listen to Messrs Senior Watts and Tony White 90, they hate Mach 5's, I love them (Mach 5's that is!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Les they have got to be worth £200 for the four , You'll be lucky to get them that cheap. Thay always fetch much more than that s/hd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 The later "Rolled Edge" type are far far stronger and less prone to issues, anything pre "Folded" is F old too I'd say if in good Nick a Mach 5s worth £60 - £75 all day long condition being the difference Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 excuse my ignorance ...... which edge is rolled? the lip of the rim? and how was it before? just pressed? I've got a set to look at too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 You'll be lucky to get them that cheap.Thay always fetch much more than that s/hd Its a buyers market out there , cash is king , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinv8 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I bought a set of four for £120 but they were the earlier type and tatty, but once the welds had been checked, grit blasted and powder coated now theyre good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I sold a later style set of 5 in good condition, powder coat just beginning to rust, last month for £500 without rubber. Devon 4x4 price each powder coated is £193.55 Here - http://www.devon4x4.com/products_a/p1740c4...x16-silver.html I note Devon 4x4 are now stocking ZU's the alloy Mach 5 look alike as well at £143.75 Les it depends on condition. If you have to re-powder coat, which means blasting etc., it could set you back £40-50/wheel for a proper job. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas90 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 excuse my ignorance ...... which edge is rolled? the lip of the rim?and how was it before? just pressed? I've got a set to look at too. Lip of the rim where the tyre rests against The early ones you can measure the material thickness, later rolled edge you cannot view the material thickness due to the rolling, which makes the later stronger but I think more susceptable to getting stones / wood between rim and tyre Later Mach 5's had the back face of boss (where it mates with vehicle axle) machined which does help a bit to get them balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I can now say for sure that they are the rolled edge type and I've bought them for £200 Happy chappy now Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobed90 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Devon 4x4 are doing a special on 16x8 mach 5 bead locks set of four powder coated black for £249 including vat and delivery! im tempted to buy a new set cause i was just going to get my set blasted and powder coated and that was going cost over £200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom-conversions Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Devon 4x4 are doing a special on 16x8 mach 5 bead locks set of four powder coated black for £249 including vat and delivery! im tempted to buy a new set cause i was just going to get my set blasted and powder coated and that was going cost over £200. I think thats only for one wheel. Won't be all 4! I hope I'm wrong though & I'd buy a set at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 When I first had my "rolled edge" 4.5 inch offset Mach5's, and then had them zinc dipped, which I love,and then had a set of Grizzly Claws fitted at Bronco in Leek, the young lad asked "do you want them balancing mate ?", anyway after I stopped laughing we put one on the machine, it was 680 grammes out in one place, "shall I use stick on weights mate?", " NO son was the reply, if they come off at 60MPH and hit some poor soul on the footpath, it will probably kill them, its like a steel bag of sugar being thrown at you !". Would I swap my rolled edged Mach5's, NO I WON'T, thank you, I love em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobed90 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I think thats only for one wheel. Won't be all 4! I hope I'm wrong though & I'd buy a set at that price. Hmm, just been back to devon4x4 page again and it is now £246.10 for one!!! im either going mad or they have seen there error and changed it. Because it was clearly for a set of 4 when i first saw it. Oh well back to the loony bin for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles tout terrain Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 A mate had a rolled set of Mach 5's that all broke up, i wouldn't buy them i'll stick to trusty old 8 spokes or disco steel wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 This is one product that baffles me. The asking price suggests they are made of gold, yet they are, basically, a steel wheel that apparently has a questionable design (how many other wheels can you think of with any reputation for breaking? the last one I can remember is the original Rostyle wheels on early Range Rovers in the 1970s!). Cheap tat 8 spokes that are corroded to buggery don't even break, so why on earth would you pay £1000 for a set of Mach 5s that 'might'? You clearly don't buy them for strength, so why? Odd offset/size availability? Appearance? I've just never understood why they command such a premium - if they were 50 quid new and didn't have "issues" I'd probably get a set - the design makes cleaning the brakes quite easy Tin hat on, fireproof coat on and ready at the door Puzzled of the Southern Ocean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkk2 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 A Little OTT but I have a set of Matt Lees steel rims 18 X 8 was there many set of these made, and were they any better than the 16's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 This is one product that baffles me. The asking price suggests they are made of gold, yet they are, basically, a steel wheel that apparently has a questionable design (how many other wheels can you think of with any reputation for breaking? the last one I can remember is the original Rostyle wheels on early Range Rovers in the 1970s!). Cheap tat 8 spokes that are corroded to buggery don't even break, so why on earth would you pay £1000 for a set of Mach 5s that 'might'?You clearly don't buy them for strength, so why? Odd offset/size availability? Appearance? I've just never understood why they command such a premium - if they were 50 quid new and didn't have "issues" I'd probably get a set - the design makes cleaning the brakes quite easy Tin hat on, fireproof coat on and ready at the door Puzzled of the Southern Ocean Honestly ? "Bling" - simply they look nice They also help to get a pressure washer in to clean off calipers etc but the bottom line is the "Bling" Factor Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Sold mine to de-bling and while they were in good condition paint wise. Gone for wolf's pending a Morocco trip next Easter. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOR4x4 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hmm, just been back to devon4x4 page again and it is now £246.10 for one!!! im either going mad or they have seen there error and changed it. Because it was clearly for a set of 4 when i first saw it. Oh well back to the loony bin for me Wow!!! I'll knock £60 off that each for unpainted ones or £90 off for non-beadlocks unpainted, and I've got them in stock. (Even cheaper if you collect them) Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Honestly ? "Bling" - simply they look nice They also help to get a pressure washer in to clean off calipers etc but the bottom line is the "Bling" Factor Nige I like a man with honesty I must admit I have thought about a set of Zu's but what puts me off is that if there are spoke issues with one made of steel, what hope is there for the same design made of much less strong 'loominum alloy ... hmmm. Also the fact that I paid £-20 for my last set of alloys makes me a bit too mean to fork out £600 for another set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Steel vs Aluminium Alloy for wheels.... It is reported that in the film 'The Italian Job' (the first, good one with good actors, not the one set in LA) that the Minis had to swap over to the minilite (alloy) wheels because the jumps were collapsing the standard cooper rims.... Might be hearsay, but I am sure I read about something similar outside of the film commentry. Of course there are pros and cons with both, not saying alloys are better for hardcore off-road action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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