landroversforever Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I searched but all the threads seem are a few years old and I'm looking for recent experience. Who has a rent free welding gas bottle(s)? Which company is it from? How much does it cost you and what's their service like? Got myself a new welder and am now in need of some argon. Sadly I think work would notice a full size bottle in my work bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Adams Gas supplied mine in Sussex. Up here I've found a Hobbyweld dealer local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I have hobby weld argon shield for the mig. I've tried 15 and that really digs in, you've no chance of doing bodywork with it. Next I went onto 5 and found I was really struggling to get it to dig in on thick stuff. The best gas I've ever used is boc universal which if my memory serves is about 12. I guess it depends what your doing, you could always have a bottle of each The bottles are a lower pressure, I would say there's about half the gas as you get in a boc bottle but both companies give pressure and volume if you want to calculate it exactly. From memory boc was costing me about £90 a year in rent, £30 per fill up and lasting about 2 years. Hobby weld is one off deposit of around £60 then around £30 per refill and lasts me about a year. If have to dig through my paperwork to be more accurate on price. Mine comes from goole gas supplies, drive in, give them old bottle + £30, drive out with new bottle. They take a standard boc size regulator. Hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I second Adams Gas. If you are not a big user it pays to not have the bottle rental to deal with. A BOC size Y used to last me about 5 years, so a lot of rental for a bottle of gas when a fill up was IRO £50! I'm only on my second Adams bottle (9 lit @137 bar, 5% Argon) and if I want to return it I get my deposit back. It's nice and portable too. Adams also offer 20 litres bottles at 200 bar which is more akin to BOC sizes, and still rent free. Have a look for local distributors here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I've got hobbyweld 5, love it to bits, I get mine from a supply up here. £55 to "buy" the bottle and £26 for top ups. - it lasts a good while, if you don't forget to close the regulator before you leave the garage for the night... doh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 As an interesting thingy, there is a hobby deal at BOC. You're still paying every year, but its fair decent discount over a full normal rental. I only found out when I rang to close my account ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 That boc one has been out a while but I think they're only argoshield light and 2 litres... But that's just from memory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail84 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Not being funny but Halfauds sell argo shield in small hobby bottles as do machine mart. Round these here parts in sunny Essex a couple of the welding suppliers will sell you a small bottle for £50 then just fill as needed so try your local supplier as it might just be the job. HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Not being funny but Halfauds sell argo shield in small hobby bottles as do machine mart. Round these here parts in sunny Essex a couple of the welding suppliers will sell you a small bottle for £50 then just fill as needed so try your local supplier as it might just be the job. HTH. I'm near you so.......Any chance saying who for the gas round here? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Senator Welding at in Grays, Essex are agents for Adams Gas... Any good to you Cactus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 This thread prompted me to have a moan in the local BOC place, they agreed with out any hassle, swap to BOC from my current (Air products) supplier. For Argon its a slightly cheaper fill and 75% saving on rental. That puts it fimly in the ball bark of the hobby gas deal but with full size 232 bar bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Webster Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 We use Adams Gas from 5A's in Brize Norton - replaced our previous BOC account. http://www.5as.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heath robinson Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Anyone know of anywhere in the Somerset/Dorset region that do it? I've just looked at the rent we've been paying on argoshield and on the cans for the gas axe, and it's far and away outstripped the actual value of the gas I've used. Is it possible to get rent-free oxygen and acetylene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I have a BOC account and I loathe everything about them ....... So Was delighted to see that Albee Gasses from SPA Lancing gives you Owned bootle Bottle is exchanged each time its refilled You get a refund on the bottle (about 80%) should you ever close account CHEAPER by far than BOC and the big ones HAS THE SAME VOLUME of gas as a BOC bottle, slightly smaller as huigher pressure I have handed in one of my BOC Bottles and taken one of these out on a trial basis spot on I had a worried call from BOC HQ why I was handing in when I said they sort of growled / yepled that "Oh Christ" type respionse. IMHO bout time BOC had some serious competition Albee Gasses seem to be just that, even has built in regulator, differing sizes but 100% BOC Equivalents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveman Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Dorset auto spares do half size argo shield bottles. £60 deposit and £40 refills and they deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I have a BOC account and I loathe everything about them ....... So Was delighted to see that Albee Gasses from SPA Lancing gives you Owned bootle Bottle is exchanged each time its refilled You get a refund on the bottle (about 80%) should you ever close account CHEAPER by far than BOC and the big ones HAS THE SAME VOLUME of gas as a BOC bottle, slightly smaller as huigher pressure I have handed in one of my BOC Bottles and taken one of these out on a trial basis spot on I had a worried call from BOC HQ why I was handing in when I said they sort of growled / yepled that "Oh Christ" type respionse. IMHO bout time BOC had some serious competition Albee Gasses seem to be just that, even has built in regulator, differing sizes but 100% BOC Equivalents Can't seem to find any prices online for the large bottles, any idea roughly how much the full size argon (not argoshield) bottle is and how much refills are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 http://www.spawelding.co.uk/online-store/gas-cylinders/all-gas-cylinders.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 http://www.spawelding.co.uk/online-store/gas-cylinders/all-gas-cylinders/1494-albee-13-litre-pure-argon-rent-free-gas-cylinder-and-gas-new.html ^^ one i went for to replace boc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heath robinson Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Cheers caveman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Couple of weeks ago I went to Wellington Welding in Avonmouth, got a cylinder of Hobbyweld 5, 137 bar, 9l. http://www.hobbyweld.co.uk/default.php?page=35 ‘rent free’ in that you pay a £60 deposit (you get £40 back if you don’t want the cylinder anymore), £30 to fill. All plus VAT. So I paid £108 total for a cylinder. No rental or contract or having the bottle tested. Bit of a wrench to the wallet, but equally, beats faffing around trying to get pub cylinders filled or those stooopid disposables...(MIG) welds seem ok with that mix too. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluffy Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Hi all. Cut a long story short I bought a mig welder complete with a big bottle while I was at college and managed to get a full bottle from there.this was obviously a boc bottle. So anyway since then I've managed to use it all could someone advice me the best way to go. Maybe like a few people say and try a rent free or does anyone no anyone who knows anyone who has a contract with boc that would be willing to exchange . I'm in the Warminster, Wiltshire Regards Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Take a contract with boc, get a full bottle, return the empty bottle , cancel the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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