georgecorbett Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Defender 90 300 TDi Which is the best 2" lift kit you can buy that will still give good on road stability. Is it best to go for heavy duty springs and good quality shocks What makes are the best to buy please help Cheers George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 It depends on a lot of different things. What is the vehicle used for? what is the budget? to name a couple. Lifting it with HD springs will help the body roll potentially, but won't flex very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Why do you need a 2 inch lift on the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think you'll find, George, that 2" lifts and on road stability are mutually exclusive. You're raising the centre of gravity 2" and extending the spring 2". Both of these will negatively impact on road manners. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souster Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Me personally,I wouldn't go for heavy duty springs. Way too stiff and uncomfortable for my liking. If you want near enough the best. Look into old man emu, with gwyn Lewis gear. What that chap don't know about suspension ain't worth knowing. An alternative would be 2 inch lift blocks on genuine land rover springs and longer shocks. But I don't know much about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Do you think the days of lifts are almost over? It seems ages since I've seen a Disco on scaffolding - and people seem far more aware of all the issues with lifts ... I might be wrong, but at one point lifted vehicles seemed everywhere and now they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I always got the feeling that it doesnt actually help all that much? The axles are the lowest point and a lift doesnt help there, it makes the vehicle less stable both on and off road, and you only get a mild improvement in approach and breakover angles, which on a 90 are already fairly decent (compared with a 110 or Disco say) due to the short wheelbase and overhangs Some folk fit a lift for tyre clearance, but if the tyre catches at normal height, its likely that it'll probaby catch on a lifted vehicle too as the suspension moves around. Better to add proper clearance for the tyres. Increasing flex seems much more worthwhile, and that doesnt need a lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the days of the generic lift are still well and truly alive, especially if you follow any of the Facebook LR groups. And the number of 4" lifts is getting ridiculous. There is still a massive assumption by a lot of people that lift = more travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I've seen a few of those comments Ross and they are generally supported with "I want it to look butch / right / Buff" Cosmetics.. Very few of those shown look as if they leave tarmac... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Ahh - still prevalent then. I don't use Facebook nor read the magazines - so I guess I'm just not seeing it. There is though that growing demographic of shiny tdci's where the money is spent on wheels and interiors rather than a pseudo off-road appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Extreme on road ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Mo, you mean this, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 It reminds me of that VW Golf advert if you remember - where all the modified ones are crying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Mo, you mean this, right? Is the front stretched to fit additional Superchargers and intercoolers for the 200Tdi that's probably powering it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 That might be the LS engined one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Extreme on road Mo Extreme clay bar and polishing. Extereme leather dashboards with contrasting stitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yep, like this one: http://www.kahnautomobiles.com/availableDetail.php?i=826 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Mo, you mean this, right? What has been seen cannot be unseen ! Orange leather MOG ? ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Back on topic ..... tell us what you actually want to do with your truck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Lift kits. Did the MoD find the need for them? Did the Camel Trophy Defenders have them? That's how necessary they are. Fine for a rock crawler, but they're a hindrance for anything else; their fitment is almost exclusively an aesthetic choice for folk fitting oversize wheels and tyres which reduce grip, performance, stability, economy and agility. Still, each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 They're a hinderance on a rock crawler too.... CoG is as important as flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 but quite useful on a winch challenge truck to get better rampover angles and to be able to fit bigger tyres so you dont bottom out in ruts all the time.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 But then road manners aren't really an issue on a challenge truck ... ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well, mine has a 2" lift. It's on terrafirma shocks and medium duty springs. Road manners...no worse than any other defender I've driven and I have no anti roll bars fitted. I don't expect it to handle like a go kart, but it doesn't fall laughably about when shown a corner. It's running on 265/75 BFG km2s, so again an on-road compromise which affects handling characteristics (although damn good in the recent snow). It's polybushed from front to back so yet another black mark against its handling prowess as these get shot down in flames whenever mentioned too. Ride comfort: again, not much in it which will come down to spring rate selection rather than vehicle height. I find the 90 a bit more "choppy" than the 110 but I put that down to wheelbase more than suspension. It tows my 19ft flatbed trailer nice and level as well. So, to the OP I can only comment on my setup: it's fine for what I use and for comparison rides better than the standard L200 I had. I'd say they could've benefited from some thicker paint on the nice silver finish as the stone chips are beginning to rust..as are the springs ( powder coat would've been more durable than paint I think). Just remember if you do lift it to buy suitably extended brake flexis too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I find mine fine on a 2"!lift although I do wonder a little bit how useful it is. I will note the air suspension land rovers will go 2 or so inches higher off road so I suspect Land Rover feel it has some benefit but not enough to be that high in the air all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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