ejparrott Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Who's best recommended for a recon 4-bolt PAS box at the moment? I know Adwest were but apparently they are no longer supplying to the public. Paddocks stock them with and without the drop arm at over £200+VAT, exchange, but then I found a company in Chester via eBay doing them for £150, exchange, and I'm a bit dubious about that tbh. Looked at Craddocks and as usual made no sense of their website, and I'm loathe to use them anyway. The box on The 109 has been an advisory last 2 MoT's now, but it's been quietly weeping away and I've not worried about it too much.... Then last week it plopped it's pants....big style! Think it's over due for doing now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 kylie clinton in Birmingham, offer a really decent service. Even used some gas warming to swap my drop arm off for me. ( i couldn't shift it and was ready to buy another). http://www.steering-racks.co.uk/ Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I bought a new adwest from my local indi in the end. I figured it was worth the investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Having taken apart a few steering boxes I can appreciate how the innards can't really be reconditioned without extensive cost, so a cheap recon for me is a no-no. Generally it's the leak from the drop arm that makes folk replace the boxes, and that is one area where new seals with not live for long. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=84439 If you can stretch to an outright purchase of a NEW box I would advise that option. That said, I have been lucky with 2nd hand boxes off breaker trucks. Of course they may have had a re-con box in them, but it's a risk I'm happy to take for £50 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Don't bother, get a new one from Adwest I've had too much bad experience with recon boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Last I heard though Adwest were not selling to the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Last I heard though Adwest were not selling to the public? This rumour seems to keep going round, but i think they still are (its Magal Engineering now - Megan dealt with my purchase - that was four years or so ago for me though - i'm sure i've heard of people buying them since then though). I believe Paddocks sell new Adwest ones as well if you cant buy direct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Famous four sell new Adwest ones too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Mine from my indi was all tagged as an adwest box, but came with an allmakes sticker on it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The 110s steering box is a recon and I can only describe it as ****. AMD stock new, Adwest boxes but you'll have to ring to get a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 I might try and ring Adwest's new owners in the morning and see what they say. Otherwise I'll check with FamousFour and Paddocks....Paddocks is tempting as they do offer one with drop arm on, having said which, there's so much ATF dribled over mine over the last few years, it'll probably fall off if I sneeze..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If its bottom shaft seal, whack a speedisleve on it and new seals, 31.75mm for interference fit, bit of pipe turned(this I know you can do ) to fit and you could knock it on in situ, worked well on 3 boxes I've done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 When I bought my box at the end of the summer last year, Adwest were unable to supply one to me due to pressures of production. The young lady did tell me, however, that if I bought a a Britpart one it would be a genuine Adwest box. I ordered one from Paddocks and lo, it was so, complete with a little Adwest seriel number plaque riveted to it. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 Nige its leaking from all over! Bottom seal has gone, but so has the input, I think that's the one that shat it's pants last week. TBH the whole box is grotty, so a nicely rebuilt unit would be the better choice at this time, especially as I've so much to do and so little free time at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Nige its leaking from all over! Bottom seal has gone, but so has the input, I think that's the one that shat it's pants last week. TBH the whole box is grotty, so a nicely rebuilt unit would be the better choice at this time, especially as I've so much to do and so little free time at the moment.New one then almost definitely, so many reconditioned boxes are little more than a £6.95 seal kit, to actually do them properly would cost the same as a new one!!!I sort of wished Adwest did remanufactured exchange, then for sure, latest seals, new components where needed and all new bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I sort of wished Adwest did remanufactured exchange, then for sure, latest seals, new components where needed and all new bearings. I have a feeling they used to, but stopped some years ago. I would think that the casings are generally good to re-use, so a shame there isnt a little recycling there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Given the quantity of castings they use, they will be cheaper to get new ones than clean, blast, inspect and then reuse the old one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souster Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Do the boxes only leak from the input and output seals? Mine seems to be leaking from a circle recess looking from the front of the box, is there a seal inside there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 The one with the beg hexagon socket in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The problem I have with things sold as 'recon with a 30 day warranty' is that some people consider a coat of paint a recon and if the warranty is 30 days they're aiming for it to last 31 so if it's a car I rely on I only fit new. I reconditioned one myself just to have a go as I'd gone through a few £20 second hand ones, the box dropped oil as fast as you poured it in so I figured I had nothing to lose. I had a cracking manual that gave all the tolerances to measure etc. I had to make a couple of tools and I replaced every seal and bush I could whilst I was in there. Cost me £20, took hours and was a real ball ache but it lasted all the time I had the car despite big tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I bought a 2010 power steer box off eBay for my 1988 90 for £150 and it works great and no leaks. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Who did you buy it from Graham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris113 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Despite the horror stories about recon boxes, I purchased a recon 4-bolt box from MM4x4 5 years ago, it's covered 40k without any issues as of yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktdi Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I bought a recon box from simmonites 5 years ago . Not cheap but its done 50k plus with no probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 After a few day's laid up I've ordered a recon box from Paddocks. They've emailed to say the box will be coming direct from their supplier, so we'll see what we get when it arrives. I opted to have one sent with the drop arm included in the end, there wasn't much by way of extra cost, less than me having to buy a puller if it refused to come off, as I've also only got a small window to send the old box back to get the surcharge back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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