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Very subtle, but no, sorry :)

He can tow a heavier trailer with a lighter car, which in combination is not over 3500Kg MAM. MAM is not weight, but maximum authorised mass....

I guess they realised no-one had a weighbridge at home, and actually asking people to estimate the weight of their truck was never going to be right.

He can also tow up to a 750KG MAM trailer (90% of these will be unbraked as not required) with any vehicle as long as it is 3500Kg MAM or less.

confused? You should be ;)

Haven't looked again for it.... But the wording certainly used to have something about the MAM of the trailer being less than the unladen weight of the car too.

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Indeed, as far as towing weights for vehicles, that is in the manufacturer's handbook.

Some hybrid SUVs, for example, can only tow 500Kg :unsure:

There was the recommendation that you should not two more than 85% of your vehicle weight, but I think that was some spurious nonsense spouted by the caravan club, and has been enshrined in urban legend since.

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nice to know I am good upto 8 1/4 tons thats way more than a disco one towing another disco even on a trailer. but definitely means i can recover my own vehicles with an A frame as long as they're road legal

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HHHmmm. Based on Tal's post. i assume towing another car for recovery purpose could also be problematic for those with newer licences.

no, recovering a car on a bar or rope is an exception. anyone can do that.

fun thins licenceing thing isnt it.

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Indeed, as far as towing weights for vehicles, that is in the manufacturer's handbook.

Some hybrid SUVs, for example, can only tow 500Kg :unsure:

There was the recommendation that you should not two more than 85% of your vehicle weight, but I think that was some spurious nonsense spouted by the caravan club, and has been enshrined in urban legend since.

So you have to:-

1) Drive a combination within you Driving License Limits

2) Drive a combination within what the Manufacturers say it is capable of (include nose weight on tow ball)

3) Not Drive dangerously or without due care and attention

4) Drive a vehicle that is safe and road worthy

So that 85% rule goes with item 3/4 on the list, it is bit of a grey area as What is driving dangerously?. I think it has been argued that a professional body in the related area (The caravan club) has stated that it can be dangerous to drive with a trailer/caravan that is over 85% the weight of the vehicle.

How that holds up in court I don't know.

I think the 85% rule was decided upon to give you some leeway from the towed vehicle being over 100% without actually having to weigh everything.

I would think that towing a vehicle that is over 100% of the vehicle doing the towing is more likely to be a problem if stopped.

You could then argue what about articulated lorries, what they are towing is over 100% of the vehicle towing it, but I guess they would argue that they have an active braking system making it less dangerous.

So to sum up a trailer over 85% the weight of the vehicle could be a grey area with the police and probably your insurers as well and if over 100% it would be even harder to argue that it is OK.

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there is no grey area. it is safe and legal to tow 3.5 ton behind a discovery. that is what the law says and that is what matters. the caravan club 85% garbage came from a article published years ago and was simply there to guide people on what car to buy for their caravan so that the car had a easier time and a badly loaded trailer (like 50% of all caravans on the road because a lot of caravanners have no idea on how to load a trailer) has less effect on the car.

rant over. sorry.

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Just a note on the BE

Category B+E

You can drive a vehicle with a MAM of 3,500kg with a trailer.

The size of the trailer depends on when you passed your test. If you passed your test:

before 19 January 2013 you can tow any size trailer

on or after 19 January 2013 you can tow a trailer with a MAM of up to 3,500kg

Something that nearly scuppered me.

Does anyone have any information on towing a trailer with a MAM over the vehicles towing limit? Is it still weight on the day or is nearly every jap pickup towing illegally?

Another good one I heard was no trailer license required if your towing with a NATO hook!

Will.

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With regards to my post if you want to tow a vehicle, it has to be taxed and insured to be legal with any of its wheels on the road. If its an offroader, out of tax, or un-insured it has to be all four wheels on a trailer.

And if you want to tow on an A frame the frame strength must exceed the weight of the vehicle and you can't go over 25mph.

Having done 30ish round a corner off road (with a peugeot estate on the frame) and felt the consequences I can highly reccomend sticking to that speed limit too.

As i understood it I can tow something over the towing vehicles actual weight as long as the trailer is properly braked....(I think, so please dont quote me to a policeman though)

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And if you want to tow on an A frame the frame strength must exceed the weight of the vehicle and you can't go over 25mph.

Bit of confusion here, an A - frame has no such restriction on speed although lots of other regulations apply.

I think you may be confusing an A-frame with a dolly? in which case two limits apply, 20MPH on normal roads and 40MPH on the motorway

But they are a b***** nightmare and your right.. the speed limits are worth observing :-)

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