Arjan Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I find LandyPoint has most of the stuff I need. Don't have a D2 so really can't say anything on that - sorry Can't comment on the dealer as I don't know where / who / etc. but is can be somewhat different from the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Hi All, thanks for feedback. We tried every main dealer in local Northern France but no one could look at it until August, RAC assistance co took it to a Ford garage yesterday where it sits and wheel being removed as we speak. As soon as we have any more news I will post it - vehicle was brand new from main dealer, not off roaded at all. Thanks JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, JWT said: not off roaded at all. Seems a shame to have the toy and not make full use 😃, now that you're here have a look at the other forums and see what people get into and out of ....(usually!). Hope Ford sorts it out properly for you, ... do let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Thanks, garage is saying besides wheel bearing, the hub also needs replacing - any ball park ideas on what I’d be looking at for parts and work? Thanks JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 don't know why they want to replace the hub, unless there is some damage they are not happy with, the wheel bearing outer races can be drifted or pressed out & new races come with the new bearings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Must be a pretty serious failure for the hub to be replaced.... Photos would help here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Wheel bearings broke up then 😒 Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 They probably mean the stub axle , of this and the hub in a wheel bearing meltdown the stub axle usually gets the worst of it . Get the other three wheels checked really well - have them prise the disc brake pads away from the discs to do the bearing check . As mentioned above going to the earlier oil lubricated set up is a big improvement . Have new brake pads fitted on the axle if there is any doubt about the side that let go - they could well be worn at an angle - and ensure the caliper is checked too . Steve b 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Thanks all, ill know more tomorrow so will update in the afternoon. cheers JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 13 hours ago, JWT said: Hi All, garage investigating at the moment - early diagnostic is it was indeed the wheel bearing - I’ll update once they have a proper look. Question, is it normal these can fail after only 4 years? thanks again for all your suggestions. JT Land Rover wheel bearings are actually pretty rugged and not prone to failing. However, Land Rovers also tend to face unusual conditions (even if you discount the occasional assembly glitch at the factory) and the wheel bearings are well placed to suffer from that. As many have already pointed out, seals can be at the heart of the problem. What some people don't realise is that even a small amount of water can cause a problem, especially if the vehicle sits for a while. You can get condensation on the bearing track (ironically, the bit that needs grease the most and also the bit that has the thinnest layer!). That condensation causes surface pitting, which leads to very high wear rates. If you don't pick up the whine quickly, they can fail. I know this from quite expensive experience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Hi All, just to close this one off, eventually had the car repatriated to Landy dealer in UK - hub had seized. Not sure if that is a common thing? No explanation as to why / how it happened, just parts fail! Anyhow bill was over £1800 to repair, new seals, hub, wheel bearing and axle. Appreciate any final thoughts / comments. Cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Wheel bearing then. My thoughts ? £1800 ? I'm in the wrong job. Mo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 It would almost certainly need the new stub axle, and the hub may have been impossible to remove without damaging it, but that seems an extraordinary bill unless it also includes the recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will@LRW Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 It's happened to me twice and I've seen it a couple more times. Typically the hub seal fails and grease gets out or water gets in. Or maybe cheap, soft parts Price of parts would be < £150 but the labour is probably the thing, as invariably the hub can be hard to get off if the inner race welded to the stub axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 £20.00 for the bearing set. £35.00 for the stub axle. Consumables at £10.00. 500% mark up, so £650.00 parts 2 Hours labour at £525.00 an hour. Seems fair Will, if you replace the stub axle, you don't need to get the inner race off - although two minutes with a slitting disc, a sharp drift and care, usually works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Much harder to get off when the outer race welds itself to the stub as the hub won't come off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Hi All, I’ll update tomorrow with the cost breakdown. Steep I know - only upside is it was cheaper than the £3k they were quoting in France! Cheers john 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 New axle? The whole casing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 Hi All, just to close this one off, eventually had the car repatriated to Landy dealer in UK - hub had seized. Not sure if that is a common thing? No explanation as to why / how it happened, just parts fail! Anyhow bill was over £1800 to repair, new seals, hub, wheel bearing and axle. Appreciate any final thoughts / comments. Cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 So labour £480 , new bearing, axle, hub etc all plus vat. photos attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Fastening pin £77, stub axle £280. That’s got a hell of a lot of markup. And why the cam bearings? There is no way on Earth that a bill of £1800 isn’t fraudulent. Land Rovers aren’t that rare in France, and even if routine channels couldn’t supply parts are regular prices, then mail order would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWT Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 That was Barrett’s Land Rover Dealer in Canterbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Camshaft bearing ? They sound like crooks. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Grease HOW MUCH. For three finger fulls ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The camshaft bearing puzzled me too , the part number might help to ID this item . For a JLR Main Dealer I don't think it's an unexpected amount , all parts will be genuine with bugger all discount . Did they perchance bother to check the other 3 WB's ? Time to find a good independent I would suggest for future works cheers Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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