Claytonv8 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just a topic to spark some conversation. What recovery do you carry? Personally I carry: Tree linx Cagelinx Strops Recovery rope 2 snatch blocks Waffle boards Soft shackles Normal metal shackles A 8274 24v upgraded gears with extended drum 13mm rope (front) A husky 24v air spooled extended drum 11m rope (rear) Ground anchor. Put the kinetic back in the garage has I refuse to trust 90% of people's recovery points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Claytonv8 said: Just a topic to spark some conversation. What recovery do you carry? Personally I carry: Tree linx Cagelinx Strops Recovery rope 2 snatch blocks Waffle boards Soft shackles Normal metal shackles A 8274 24v upgraded gears with extended drum 13mm rope (front) A husky 24v air spooled extended drum 11m rope (rear) Ground anchor. Put the kinetic back in the garage has I refuse to trust 90% of people's recovery points! I carry 2x snatch blocks, tree straps selection of steel shackles, high lift jack, have waffles, tend not to carry them, balloon jack, works off exhaust , again not always carrying it and ground anchor Rhino 13500lb winch on the front soon to be warn 8274 on the rear Regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Mix of hard and soft shackles form 1.5 to 6.5 tonnes. One of my soft shackles is 10 tonnes SWL, but I don't trust soft shackles to that extent 1x conventional snatch block (Black Rat 20,000lb swl) Kinetic Rope 1.5" from Yankum Ropes Kinetic Rope from Goodwinch Kinetic Strop ARB Static Strop - 11m 8tonne SWL 2x 18tonne SWL shortening chains Some endless loops from 1 tonne SWL to 5 tonnes SWL CM35 12mm winch rope with spliced eye (105') 2x 10mm 100' extensions set of Brothers 5tonne SWL Winch Blanket 1x Land Rover Discovery hydraulic Jack 1x 8 tonne hydraulic bottle jack and attachments 1x Toyota screw jack Shovel Goodwinch G10, Upgraded to re-machined drum supports, with roller bearings, Bow motor, and some other secret bits. Stall is almost double original Comms, lights, head torches etc First aid kit with some extras (and the knowledge on how to use it) comfort pack (toilet paper, chocolate, sanitary towels etc) Some other bits and bobs like ratchet straps etc depending on the recovery job 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytonv8 Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 Finally found a place where people actually have recovery gear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Strop, couple of shackles... Jack... Umm Some time this year a winch and soft shackles. Gotta keep things light! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Strop, rope, couple of shackles, spade, a soft shackle someone gave me. If I'm going somewhere nasty I take the hi-lift in the hope I never have to touch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Tow rope (24mm 3 strand), Selection of shackles and strops 1-6ton and 2-5m, 1 endless strop 2m, 2 snatch blocks, 10m dyneema winch extension Spade, Winch blanket, Gloves, 12ton bottle jack, First aid kit, fire extinguisher, tyre repair kit and pump Warn X9 in a vector system with 11mm dyneema, I have 2 bridging ladders and a Hi lift but they stay in the workshop. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 This may sound obvious, but a spare wheel is something not many people carry. 'I've got one on the trailer' is the usual comment, before they ask you to borrow yours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Ooh, bonus points for me, I have one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 ARB kinetic strap, tree strap, various sizes of shackles, nowadays a 12k winch and pulley, jack, spare, lots of tools. On long trips in the Merc I transfer some stuff over. Usually a few shackles, the kinetic strap, some tools. It has gotten a jack and a tyre repair kit as well (no spare, nor room for one). 4 hours ago, Claytonv8 said: Put the kinetic back in the garage has I refuse to trust 90% of people's recovery points! I'd rather gently pull with a kinetic than with a fixed strap, greatly reduces the shock load. Kinetic doesn't mean foot-to-the-floor-launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 hours ago, elbekko said: I'd rather gently pull with a kinetic than with a fixed strap, greatly reduces the shock load. Kinetic doesn't mean foot-to-the-floor-launch. Echo that. That said I do like the feel of a fixed strap for some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 hours ago, miketomcat said: First aid kit, fire extinguisher, tyre repair kit and pump I was going to say this. If you're messing around with this sort of stuff, a first aid kit becomes essential. And they're meaningless without the training to use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 12 hours ago, miketomcat said: First aid kit, fire extinguisher, tyre repair kit and pump I'm so used to those being in the truck I forgot to list them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 in justification of the long list, I do recovery at various events and competitions, as well as timber extraction from interesting places and 'recovery' for local farmers when 'The Popcorn Limiter Folk' decide to drive droves on the moor I do have a hi-lift, it stays in the garage unless I am doing some training. I also carry 3x 1.5kg fire extinguishers (tested every year by the guy that does the Glastonbury Festival fire extinguishers). I have some waffles (used as shelving in the workshop). I'm using the shortening chains more and more now, as decent recovery points are becoming less and less common, even on competition vehicles. On the Lands End Trial I warn the competitors via social media two weeks before the event, that if they don't have decent recovery points then I will be using a chain to create one, what ever the damage. Soft shackles just cant take tight radius or sharp edges; added to which the scrutineers are getting lazy.... I also carry stuff like a spider brace and a couple of decent pry bars, window breaker, seat belt cutter etc. I also carry a brew kit, with plenty of hot water and some extra clothes, towels etc. No way I'm going to get soaked, that's the drivers job, but if it's cold, then I don't want him/her/they getting hypothermic (although I carry kit for that) Every six months I get the kit laid out and work through what I've used and what I haven't. I also make notes on what I could have used (like the spider brace). I also like testing 'new' stuff on the market. I get sent a bit and I collect a bit. I've got a Safe-Xtract X lock coming soon. Looks to be an total waste of money, but the Muricans swear by them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Not sure I can work out what the Safe-Xtract is supposed to do @Nonimouse? Some way of using your winch with less on the drum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 41 minutes ago, landroversforever said: Not sure I can work out what the Safe-Xtract is supposed to do @Nonimouse? Some way of using your winch with less on the drum? https://www.safe-xtract.com/tutorials/x-lock-uses/ Some sort of not-a-shackle thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, elbekko said: https://www.safe-xtract.com/tutorials/x-lock-uses/ Some sort of not-a-shackle thing? I'm still in the dark... it just seems to enable you to have a doubled up section at the hook end? It doesn't seem like you'd actually be able to have much extra line out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bob Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) I thought it looked a bit like a climbing belay device and one of the proposed uses seems to be to belay a vehicle though I wonder how often people find they're in a position where that's necessary! Found a video to demonstrate its use in reducing the line left on the winch drum. (X lock bit starts about 10 mins in) I think I'd prefer to use a snatch block and get the mechanical advantage as well as reducing the line left on the winch. Edited January 12 by Green Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 35 minutes ago, landroversforever said: I'm still in the dark... it just seems to enable you to have a doubled up section at the hook end? It doesn't seem like you'd actually be able to have much extra line out. It's a shiny expensive thing. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but I'm much of the Chocolate Fireguard opinion. I test stuff with a knowledgeable friend (Angus Norrish, for those in the know) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 39 minutes ago, Green Bob said: I thought it looked a bit like a climbing belay device and one of the proposed uses seems to be to belay a vehicle though I wonder how often people find they're in a position where that's necessary! Found a video to demonstrate its use in reducing the line left on the winch drum. (X lock bit starts about 10 mins in) I think I'd prefer to use a snatch block and get the mechanical advantage as well as reducing the line left on the winch. Why not simply use the winch to wind in the surplus cable, or alternatively either move the vehicle further back, or use a pulley block. I also thought it looked like a climbing belay, but couldn't understand why.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bob Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Nonimouse said: Why not simply use the winch to wind in the surplus cable, I can understand wanting to get the winch pulling from further in to maximise the pulling power but that's exactly the scenario where you'd use a snatch block to do the same thing. I can't imagine a circumstance where you'd want to be using the most of the winch's power but you wouldn't want to be pulling 2:1. If, for example, you think the anchor might not cope with 'double the force', you're not going to get the vehicle out if it needs that anyway! I think its appeal is how shiny it is and the video is someone trying to justify why they've spent money on a new fad. It seems to have multiple uses but they all look to require using it in conjunction with kit that you'd already use for those situations anyway. I'd be interested in your thoughts after using it for a bit, especially how well it does at holding doors open or papers down... Edited January 12 by Green Bob 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 That's my thought.... using the snatch block ratio even on the top layer of rope is surely an advantage over the base layer only on the drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I'm happy to lend it out once we've finished playing. Although Angus might break it, he's good at that. I honestly can't get my head around the need, although Bob's suggestion of a paperweight is a good idea. I could polish it up some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I'd be more inclined to carry this around - seems very useful (but a bit spendy): https://yankum.com/products/offset-winch-ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Retroanaconda Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 I carry a rope, two shackles and a spade. If I need more than that, I try not to go there in the first place! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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