Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Hmmm Lights prob Now its dark at going hom time I have a prob Used the 90 today, this has the quality 1985 Sealed beams, main beam is like dip should be and dip is ...well like 2 glow worms with a cold, hoples With a decent 0-60 and near 280 BHP the lights (or lack of) are making things "Interesting" in a vinyl wipe stain free seat sort of way I did have a pair of Ubcle Jez's HIDs on for a while, Main was like daylight switching to dip was kin stroll on where the ************ Road gone sort of way So, what are my options if : I don't want to rewire Headlmaps Want waterproof Lights Want really good lighting - without aqdding lights No HID etc as they caused blockage to colling don't wnat to mely my wiring Options please ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Many people have had good sucess with the crystal halogen units, with the +90% bulbs (or whatever is available now). I have a pair of 60w spots on the a-bar, which is great for road driving but of course does mean adding extra lights! Sealed beams are more waterproof, but if you get the halogen units that are plastic then you can drill a drain hole in the bottom so the water can get out and not cause so much corrosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 the LED headlights here depending on how much you want to spend, they would satisfy the waterproof bit otherwise the crystal lens with standard wattage but brighter bulbs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 the LED headlights heredepending on how much you want to spend, they would satisfy the waterproof bit otherwise the crystal lens with standard wattage but brighter bulbs, £1,276.59 Ex VAT :rofl: FFS ! I'm semi retired - so sensible £s options without havng to turn to selling meself (at .50p a time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I've had crystal lights crack on me and they go yellow after a couple of years. The best lighting you're going to get from "standard" technology is a new set of glass semi sealed units with new 60/55s in them. The Autopal ones sold by Ring are better than their price would suggest, though you get a narrower beam the light in front of you is very good, compared to other headlights I've used. Wipac Quadoptics are amongst the most expensive I've used, the later ones had a plastic reflector and don't suffer corrosion like the early ones did, you can pick up good second hand ones from 1995my onwards. These have a much more complicated prism pattern to give a wider spread of light (hence the brand name), which they do-lighting up both road and pavement, but I find they are better suited to cars and standard LR products, use them on something that's lifted and they are a bit wasted in my opinion. Most modern bulbs are made using the same technolgy as the "high output" types you can pay £20 a bulb for, I tried some of the Phillips plus50% in the noddy car only to find they were no better than the Osram units Nissan buy in as OEM, All bulb manufacturers use the latest Xenon technology so the only time you are likely to be impressed by such an upgrade is if your current bulbs are 20 years old. As I've read recently that the MOT will now included checks that HIDs are not retro fitted (instant fail) then they aren't really an option anymore. I've been running some for a couple of years and found they aren't as reliable as they claim anyway and again with the noddy car, the dip beam is a bit better but the main beam is way too high. Nothing is specifically wrong they just don't work. High power bulbs are just as illegal as HID IIRC in anything built after the mid 80s, and as you say they can be a problem with older wiring, in an older car any gain in light output from the higher current draw is lost because of the voltage drops accross old switchgear and junctions. If you're going to keep dunking it then there isn't really mush of an answer, Quartz-halogen bulbs don't like to be contaminated and will fail if damp. I do think the Wipac have a good seal with them but it's not intended to be submersible. SO, I'd advise trying some plastic Wipac units from a soft dash RRC first with new bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpants Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Of the various lamp units we trialed whilst I was at Pinzgauer, the best all-round option turned out to be the wipac ones- they have quite a good selaing cap over the back of the lamp. The bosch and hella parts we tried took on more water and muck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I vote crystal upgrade, its like night and day, (excuse the pun) I got a pair with bulbs and new bowls and everything for 30 squid (wipec ones - from bolt on bits), even if they go yellow after a few years, just replace them, its a no frills easy job to do too and cheap. they use standard 2 fillament H3 bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I had some crystal lamps but I was disappointed with them. Quadoptics going in the new 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 wesite ^^^^ Linky ? Hopefully not as spendy as Ralphs lights Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 My TD5 has wipac quadoptics fitted - and I don't really have a big issue with them. I would imagine they are original (ie genuine) parts, so might be worth going down that route? ^^ Anyone got a part number re the above ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I upgraded my wireing too when I did mine so maybe that's makes the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 wesite ^^^^ Linky ? Hopefully not as spendy as Ralphs lights Nige Wipac Quadoptics LINKY HTH Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 These are very very good: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7%22-WIPAC-CRYSTAL-Halogen-Headlights-%26-Bowls-Defender_W0QQitemZ390242797529QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=170813405039&rvr_id=170813405039&cguid=16fdc39c11d0a0e202069d26ffb83795 That's with bowls, but you may of course not need them A mate runs them in his truck, and they are like having a couple of searchlights on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobson Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Best thing i've put in mine is these : osram +90% they made a huge difference in both vehicles i've used them in, i think you can even get +100% now. big difference for the price anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I've just got halogens with decent bulbs in on the 110 and they are fine. Admittedly the rooflights help a tad when hoofing over the moor at night Maybe its your age Nige You shouldn't be out after dark anyway Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 hi nige i can do you a really nice upgrade for £33plus postage all brand new drop me a pm for details i did the same updgrade for discodad on here on monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco_al Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I would go for the crystal ones with some good bulbs in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markt Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 60th SVX Crystal Headlamp/headlights Defender 90/110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 60th SVX Crystal Headlamp/headlights Defender 90/110 Extract from the puff: "These lamps can handle Xenon HID kits unlike other specialists who sell you anything without telling you what they will fit, we are the Land Rover lighting people.". But they don't tell you it's illegal to fit HID lights to a vehicle not equipped with either an automatic headlamp levelling system, or an automatic levelling suspension system. Without one of those two options what's the point of paying extra for these units, just that they are '60th Edition SVX', and have a built in sidelight? What vehicle came with standard fit 7" round headlights, AND a levelling system as standard? I can't think of one. I note these cost more, from the same supplier, than the 'lights+bowls' referenced by an earlier poster at http://tinyurl.com/2wyn23u The lens seem to be the same, the only material difference is the built in side light, and the absence of bowls. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Did'nt someone-I think it was someone in Sweden or Denmark-Europe anyway fit MK2 golf headlights he bought off of e-bay? Here you go http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=59511&st=0&p=519412&hl=+mk2%20+golf%20+headlights&fromsearch=1entry519412 Would these not help at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 Did'nt someone-I think it was someone in Sweden or Denmark-Europe anyway fit MK2 golf headlights he bought off of e-bay? Here you go http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=59511&st=0&p=519412&hl=+mk2%20+golf%20+headlights&fromsearch=1entry519412 Would these not help at all? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Scrapyards Another of my hobbies Yesiree thats a strong possibily Are ANY of the ideas above "Sealed Units" ?? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkrentfitter Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 i used late type rrc headlights with decent bulbs in my 90,far far better than the sealrd beams,bonus was they came from a motor i was breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Nige-silicone sealant (bathroom type) is your friend when sealing up Normal halogen headlights I've done this for year's and not once after dunking have I had to dry out my headlamps afterwards, ok it's a bit of a pain when you have to change the bulbs over but even that's few and far between anyway's HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 But they don't tell you it's illegal to fit HID lights to a vehicle not equipped with either an automatic headlamp levelling system, or an automatic levelling suspension system. so is it legal to fit HID,S to a p38 with air suspension then? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 No it's not as the p38 is self leveling but you need to have capped bulbs to be legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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