simonr Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I've made one of these: One of the biggest problems with Defenders, as my trousers will attest, are that the door striker plates have a habit of ripping pockets & belt loops off! I've ruinated at least six otherwise good pairs of trousers including one where it tore the leg clean off in the last year - so decided to do something about it! Although it wasn't really intended as a 'product' - it's received such an enthusiastic response from people, it might just become one! How about the X-Trouser? Really, I guess it really should be X-X-Trouser as a double negative! The difference between a standard plate and the above is that the standard one has a lip (as you can see above) at the end which has a sharp edge which catches on things. My one however has no lip and a smooth profile with no catchy, rippy bits! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Si, Great to see it in production, remember I am first on the list when you start to sell them. I previously calculated I have gone through over £200 worth of trekking trousers over the last couple of years so it makes a sound investment for me (if you release it at the prices we previously talked about) Jason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 This is the sort of product that X-eng should be proud of! Great stuff! Any issues with it being part of the door lock mechanism? I'm sure it's strong enough, just wondering if there are any implications? I'd buy one if they were for sale. I'd buy two, but I really only need one. I hardly get in the passenger's side, and those that do don't have belt loops in the same place! Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's 50% stronger than the original. The original part has an 8mm mild steel pin surrounded with a plastic sleeve. I've replaced this with a 10mm stainless pin without the sleeve. I'm not sure I can see the point of the sleeve other than the door makes a quieter 'click' as it locks or unlocks. The sleeves don't seem to last long anyway so it seemed pointless to me! The rest of it is made from 304 Stainless as well. A marginal additional benefit is the seat belt does not get caught on it either - at least not so often. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Last year I trashed 3 sets of waders (one Gortex set and two neoprene sets) - get the bloody things into production now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Definately XX-Trouser. Another great problem solving product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's 50% stronger than the original. The original part has an 8mm mild steel pin surrounded with a plastic sleeve. I've replaced this with a 10mm stainless pin without the sleeve. I'm not sure I can see the point of the sleeve other than the door makes a quieter 'click' as it locks or unlocks. The sleeves don't seem to last long anyway so it seemed pointless to me! The rest of it is made from 304 Stainless as well. A marginal additional benefit is the seat belt does not get caught on it either - at least not so often. Si Will the stainless pin not wear the lock out in the door faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Si, When are you going into production? I've just replaced two of mine as the plastic sleeves split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Its possible, but in my experience the door locks break on their own long before the catcher would exhibit wear! Also, if you look at the striker plates on locks on virtually any other vehicle, none of them have plastic sleeves! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 No trouble with my Series doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The plastic sleeve on my 90 is just about still there, but knarled and unpretty, due to being worn by the catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C18RCH Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I know I'm about to jinx myself but I can't say I've ever torn any trousers on mine. I have however trashed 2 seat belts (MoT fails due to freyed belts) because of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyninety Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i don't own a pair of jeans that have theyre belt loops intact on the back! Put me on the list for a pair of these please Si!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's a great idea, but again, I've had no trouble with my trousers ripping, maybe your getting out of the car in a 'funny' way! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well, that seems conclusive! I'll get quotes for mass producing them! My hope is that they will be about £10 - but that's a guess! I've had no trouble with my trousers ripping, maybe your getting out of the car in a 'funny' way! I think once you are as old as me and have eaten a few more pies - even you will be afflicted with this! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehaze Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 X - Grabber? X - Striker plate? You'll be needing another pole Si. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 I'm going to stick with X-Trouser as it's silly and made me laugh! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Look good Si. Can't say I've ever had an issue with it in my short number years of driving Defenders, maybe it's a height thing as you are considerably taller than me! I'll probably still have some off you at some point though, purely for the fact that it won't suffer from the plastic sleeve wearing like the standard ones do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 my series anti burst doors have never caught me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Makes me glad i've got a Discovery. Just to future proof myself, do L322 owners damage their trousers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Look fantasic, will they self polish over time? Can you make some decent work trousers now that have the knee pads in the right place and a crotch that doesnt split? leather pads on the front of the legs would be handy stop me melting phones when grinding Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie D Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I've lost count of how many jeans etc and a new gortex jacket that have been victim t this - put me down for one x-trouser please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crclifford Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Simon, I also happen to have lost a few pairs of jeans and trousers to..so i would be looking for one as well!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyron Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Makes me glad i've got a Discovery. Just to future proof myself, do L322 owners damage their trousers? err! no, also glad we have a discovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Look good Si. Can't say I've ever had an issue with it in my short number years of driving Defenders, maybe it's a height thing as you are considerably taller than me! I'll probably still have some off you at some point though, purely for the fact that it won't suffer from the plastic sleeve wearing like the standard ones do. I've never had any ripped trousers... then again it is very rare I wear trousers However, no shorts have been harmed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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