dottythe90 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Found these on the net - taken 2004 in Spain Is it Santana built ? - Indicators look odd for Solihull produced truck STEVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divster Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Definately looks Santana to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 There's a wheel nut missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I agree, santana from early 80s at a guess. Notice the 110 type windscreen, roof, and bonnet yet it has leaf springs. Regards, Diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 110 type windscreen, roof, and bonnet yet it has leaf springs Wonder if it's been SVA'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigster Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 well looked after though... one careful owner I bet... Wonder if it's been SVA'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Definitly a Santana IIRC a Cazorla pick up. this is the current PS10 or Anibal model has a Iveco 2.8TD common rail injection engine, LT85 5 speed gearbox & selectable 2/4 wheel drive I had 2 this green one & a red one for a week on fire duty at Greenbelt Festival Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Definitly a Santana IIRC a Cazorla pick up.this is the current PS10 or Anibal model has a Iveco 2.8TD common rail injection engine, LT85 5 speed gearbox & selectable 2/4 wheel drive I had 2 this green one & a red one for a week on fire duty at Greenbelt Festival Not sure about some of the styling points on the santana but I do find basic vehicle very attractive. How did you find the Iveco compared to your 200TDi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKiwi Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I've always thought Santanae (is that the plural?) look ok from the side with the bolt on arches but cack from the front and even worse from the back! It looks like an Eastern European or Korean copy of a Land Rover. If the UK MoD ever do buy any, I think our battlefield cred would suffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 (edited) Not sure about some of the styling points on the santana but I do find basic vehicle very attractive.How did you find the Iveco compared to your 200TDi? didn't get much chance to drive it, but it's seems to be a cracking engine at 2.8 turbo intercooled & common rail injection it should be, it picks up quick & had lots of grunt, but it was completely empty, maybe I should have loaded my 500kgs of rally recovery kit into it for a better comparison, don't like the ride on parabolic leafs though to hard when empty, much prefer my 110 anyday drove the red one & the red 110 all 3 were kitted & used as fire appliances backed up by our fire tender a Dodge S50. the red 110 & red Santana ready for duty the Dodge appliance 2 Fire Support 110's [blue one is mine & the white one belongs to Earl -- forum username] & the green Santana ready for duty I have more pics of details & interior, just need to upload to my PB account. Edited September 10, 2006 by western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I love the string for opening the door handle classic bodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Bet it handles like it is on rails. (sorry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Those wheels don't look like they'd be much good in mud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 (edited) More pics of the PS10 above, interior & underchassis. open link above & double click to enlarge pictures. a few comments, door handles are not very nice to use, ride when empty is hard, dash is very poor plastic,lots of exposed screws-- more than a Defender, front seats seemed comfortable --but didn't have to drive it for hours, rear side windows are fixed, rear side doors don't open as far as Defender 110 do, tubular front bumper is welded to chassis. park brake in between front seats so no room for centre cubbybox, main gearbox is a LR LT85 5 speed with selectable transfer box with 2 or 4 wheel drive -- shift was fully forward 2H - 4H - N - 4L fully rearward, no centre diff selector or diff lock. Edited September 7, 2006 by western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Those seem to be rather negative comments Ralph. Does that sum up your overall impression or did it leave any positve feelings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Em they them spanish spinners then ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Not overally impressed but they did the job we needed to complete, I certainly wouldn't by one if I was needing to replace my 110 -- that would definitly be a rebuild or newer 110, the rest of the firecrew didn't like them much either & we have already made it known that 110's are our choice vehicle for next year, for last year we had 3 brand new 110 Td5's & everyone liked them engine was fine though & could be a possible alternative to a 200/300Tdi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottythe90 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Those wheels don't look like they'd be much good in mud... They must be the prototype new Simex product - ice tyres Steel wheels and leaf springs - I bet the ride is kind of 'firm' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 More pics of the PS10 above, interior & underchassis.open link above & double click to enlarge pictures. a few comments, door handles are not very nice to use, ride when empty is hard, dash is very poor plastic,lots of exposed screws-- more than a Defender, front seats seemed comfortable --but didn't have to drive it for hours, rear side windows are fixed, rear side doors don't open as far as Defender 110 do, tubular front bumper is welded to chassis. park brake in between front seats so no room for centre cubbybox, main gearbox is a LR LT85 5 speed with selectable transfer box with 2 or 4 wheel drive -- shift was fully forward 2H - 4H - N - 4L fully rearward, no centre diff selector or diff lock. The rear diff at least appears to be of Hypoid construction. The steering trackrod is up front and higher up than a Defender.If the LT85 has been redesigned with better bearings that would be at least 3 points in their favor. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 The rear diff at least appears to be of Hypoid construction. The steering trackrod is up front and higher up than a Defender.If the LT85 has been redesigned with better bearings that would be at least 3 points in their favor.Bill. I dont believe it is, bill. The diffs are ordinary series diffs, but with different ratios; the axles are exactly series casings, but wider. Hence the draglink up front. Have a nose on this website, they are offered for sale as seperate parts: http://www.heystee-automotive.com/index.htm daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 What exactly are the indicators for? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagoc Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 this one is Portuguese and it was used by our railroad company. take a look at it's witdh. it's wider than a normal SIII so our guess is that it was also used on the rails. the LR badge on the grill says something under "Land Rover", but i can't figure out what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 the LR badge on the grill says something under "Land Rover", but i can't figure out what it is most likely it'll say Land Rover Santana -- the spanish builder when the agreement was in operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I dont believe it is, bill. The diffs are ordinary series diffs, but with different ratios; the axles are exactly series casings, but wider. Hence the draglink up front.Have a nose on this website, they are offered for sale as seperate parts: http://www.heystee-automotive.com/index.htm daan Interesting website Daan. And perhaps your right about the diff. But the casting is different to series diffs, ie no filler plug or boss. and doesn't have the flat bottomed pinion snout of later model coiler style diffs. The pinion line also appears to be below centre, but that could also be an optical illusion from the angle that the photo was taken from. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 this one is Portuguese and it was used by our railroad company. take a look at it's witdh. it's wider than a normal SIII so our guess is that it was also used on the rails.the LR badge on the grill says something under "Land Rover", but i can't figure out what it is For that vehicle to be used on rails I would think the front axle would need to be the same width as the rear one, which it clearly isn't in the photo. More than likely that vehicle is fitted with dual rear wheels. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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