landroversforever Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 If you had the choice, which would you go for? Any particular advantages of either one that you've found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It's easier to get rusted screws out of a plastic one I don't think there's much other benefit to warrant changing from one to the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 the older late 80's inner wings are galvanised at least mine are on my late 1989 110CSW. I'd look for a pair if I was in your position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 The steel inner mudguard is part of the structure of the wing - the aluminium is so thin and soft on 90/110 wings it will have no stiffness without it . They are all galv'd I thought but do rust from the lower edge sometimes cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 The plastic ones have a soundproofing mat that goes over them on the later models, whether this is a separate part number or not I don't know. So if sound reduction is a priority they might be worth a shot on that merit. However knowing your car Ross I suspect it is not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 Well I've got metal ones currently, and I think galv'd but they have been butchered in places and have a few little rusty bits. Soundproofing will be done actually James... But not until I do a ground up rebuild/paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Plastic all the way, sooo much lighter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Plastic for weight saving on a defender ? Isn't that like putting a plaster on a shrapnel victim ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Any idea how much different Fridge? Might be tempted if there is a big saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Plastic for weight saving on a defender ? Isn't that like putting a plaster on a shrapnel victim ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hmmm Plastic. Part Number please and where from. Yes I'd go plastic because the steel ones do not straighten. I suspect a plastic one will me plastic ? ? ? and spring back into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 they weigh a ton in steel. Plastic or non at all. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhz Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Good for weight loss, but I think the steel versions do better when speeding on gravel roads...plastic may break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Has anyone jumped up and down on a plastic wing inner?... I think I know a truck with one, so I'll report back. Mav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Has anyone jumped up and down on a plastic wing inner? Why would you want to? They're only keeping the worst of the road muck out of the engine bay, and on an off-roader as Daan says you can live without them entirely given the benefit they bring. Put Daan's truck on the scales opposite the average "challenge" 90 and see if you still think weight saving is pointless, every little helps and the benefits are numerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I didn't know we where talking about challenge trucks... I thought it was a general question put out there... I regularly climb up onto my wings to get to the roof rack and have been know to let women perch on them... if the wing moved every time I did that I think I'd prefer it not too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 I climb on mine regularly too... one of the old ones has a brace to the wing top and its really rigid when stood on. However, the other side doesn't have the bracket and flexed a bit when stood right in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I climb on mine regularly too... one of the old ones has a brace to the wing top and its really rigid when stood on. However, the other side doesn't have the bracket and flexed a bit when stood right in the middle. I've only ever seen my original set of wings for the 90 having the internal brace installed, all other wings I've come across don't have those braces, I'm not sure if it was a standard thing for older trucks or if it was a military add on to give more support for the Ariel boxes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I regularly climb up onto my wings to get to the roof rack and have been know to let women perch on them... if the wing moved every time I did that I think I'd prefer it not too. Well stick a small stiffener under it or (ugh) chequer plate on top, it'll still be lighter than a square metre of galvanised steel under there. My wings have no inners at all and I can stand on them. I'm not specifically talking about challenge trucks, but a lot of them epitomise the approach of ignoring weight in favour of adding needless strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well stick a small stiffener under it or (ugh) chequer plate on top, it'll still be lighter than a square metre of galvanised steel under there. My wings have no inners at all and I can stand on them.I'm not specifically talking about challenge trucks, but a lot of them epitomise the approach of ignoring weight in favour of adding needless strength. Hmm I have a continuous inner battle with actually what should be there as per LR sold it and what actually needs to be there for practicalities sake... I am getting better... slowly... maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Put Daan's truck on the scales opposite the average "challenge" 90 and see if you still think weight saving is pointless, every little helps and the benefits are numerous. I was just being flippant :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I was just being flippant :-) Aye, but a passing idiot might not realise that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The earlier 90 and 110 wings were quite a bit thicker than when defenderized , thats when the chequer plate became a necessity rather than a fashion statement JMHE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Aye, but a passing idiot might not realise that I count myself amongst those passing idiots :-)But I digress. If they are as rigid, or that's a red herring, then rustproof and lighter must be the answer. We must also put some store in the fact that Land Rover decided it was a product worth superseding the earlier one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They were cheaper. That and changes for emissions are the only reason land rover change anything on the defender. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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