easytiger Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi I'm finally ready to take the plunge and fit my truck with a galv chassis but sourcing this is becoming a bit of a nightmare: Marsland will only supply to trade customers and are expensive Designa not currently making defender chassis only series stuff Richards quote me 10 to 12 week delivery time and there is anecdotal evidence that they often miss deadlines. Bearing in mind that the truck is already off the road now and even if they delivered in 8 weeks i still need to t wash, prime, paint and waxoyl before fitting so that is an extended period VOR. Which brings me to Shielder, an Irish supplier that I haven't heard of before who are substantially cheaper than Richards but I am a little nervous about making such a key purchase from an unknown maker. I wonder if anyone has any experience of their products or work? Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Have you spoken to Marslands? I only ask as I am not trade and have recently bought a 110 chassis from them with no issues. It was only a three week lead time in February this year and where the cheapest when I was looking. Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I noticed the other day that Devon 4x4 are selling Marsland chassis'. The prices seemed good too which is odd for Devon 4x4!! Take a look, it might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, Landrovernuts said: Have you spoken to Marslands? I only ask as I am not trade and have recently bought a 110 chassis from them with no issues. It was only a three week lead time in February this year and where the cheapest when I was looking. Toby Thanks Toby, I rang them earlier this week, the lady who answered said that they are now only taking trade enquiries and wouldn't even entertain discussing prices or availability with me. So I got somebody who is an independent LR specialist to ring them for a price, he came back with £3k (I've no idea if he added a handling charge). 18 minutes ago, reb78 said: I noticed the other day that Devon 4x4 are selling Marsland chassis'. The prices seemed good too which is odd for Devon 4x4!! Take a look, it might help. Cheers Richard I'll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Did you talk to Richards ? Sometimes they have one "lying around" from a cancelled order etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yes was about to place an order but thought I would ring to check lead in time first. Hadn't thought to have a trawl around the parts suppliers though so doing that now thanks @reb78 . really need something sooner than 10 weeks or the truck is going to be off the road all winter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Here you go: https://www.devon4x4.com/defender-110-2-5-na-td-200-tdi-galvanised-chassis.html Just under £2500 inc VAT I think so better than £3k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 When I was looking, I asked Brookwells in Devon and they wanted £1600 plus the dreaded (110 TD5), but may of course cost more if you have to factor in delivery. They said to me at the time that they kept some instock and when I drove past recently they must have had 10 or so laying on the ground, but may have been orders. They also said that they sourced from Richards and from Marsland. Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Didn't realise Marslands has stopped supplying to the public, but sure enough their website now says 'suppliers to trade'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmatt Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Glad i got mine from Marsland when i did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Same here just over 4 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I should have ordered at the start of the summer when I thought about it. But I decided not to mainly because of the lead in time, I put a new engine in in July and had thought to do both jobs together but when the lead in time meant this wasn't possible and the truck passed its test I decided against, at that stage there were no real signs of how bad the chassis was. Tried ringing Shielder chassis on Weds, still waiting on a call back so still trawling around trying to find best price / lead time combination UGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 Update! Trip to Peterborough for the LRO Show yesterday and did a cash deal with Shielder for a new galv chassis, about £700 cheaper and lead time of 3 weeks. Now busy studying @western's chassis swap thread to see what else I need before it lands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 13/09/2017 at 1:08 PM, reb78 said: I noticed the other day that Devon 4x4 are selling Marsland chassis'. The prices seemed good too which is odd for Devon 4x4!! Take a look, it might help. It turns out that they aren't supplying Marsland's. They source from Britpart and that supply originate from Richards. Also the price has changed. 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Peaklander said: It turns out that they aren't supplying Marsland's. They source from Britpart and that supply originate from Richards. Also the price has changed. 😱 Thanks for this Peaklander, I did a bit of digging on this and am told that Marsland are now supplying Britpart, hence the trade only status. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 You're obviously happy with what you saw at Shielder's stand at the show. Are there any differences in construction between theirs and the Richards or Marsland chassis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Their website also says they're looking at doing galv bulkheads too from this winter (+/-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 They use 2.5m steel for the legs same as Richards and 4mm for rear x member, bolt in gear box x member as standard. They don't remove any excess galv from bolt holes but the chassis they had on display didn't look bad TBH. Guess I'll see when it arrives in 3 weeks! I'll be sure to put up a rebuild thread and let you all know what it is like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm interested to see too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Also interested I fancy one for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 15 hours ago, landroversforever said: I'm interested to see too +1 ^^ TBH, I think so many folk are doing chassis swaps that I wonder if the manufacturers simply can't keep up with demand. I imagine it's easier for them dealing with businesses that make regular orders. That way they probably spend less time answering questions and arguing over prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 hour ago, mickeyw said: +1 ^^ TBH, I think so many folk are doing chassis swaps that I wonder if the manufacturers simply can't keep up with demand. I imagine it's easier for them dealing with businesses that make regular orders. That way they probably spend less time answering questions and arguing over prices. No doubt this is the case, the guy from Shielder did say that it is a nightmare dealing with people who ring half a dozen times asking questions and then perhaps don't even buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I don't remember exactly what it was which I didn't really like about the shielder chassis, but I walked away from their stand thinking that when I buy that it will be marshland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I found the shielder built chassis advertised on eBay, and given the prices and lead times for Richards and Marslands it does appear a good deal. Would be interesting to see all three suppliers' chassis lined up for an immediate comparison although having seen the RC and Marslands side by side I would have still opted for the latter. RC wins on its customisable options during fabrication but the "genuine" construction of the Marslands wins my vote. A lot of heavy duty agricultural equipment comes from the Emerald Isle (we've got tankers/low loaders/trailers etc all from Irish suppliers) and they're very well made...if Sheilder get a good name by supplying a good product especially on forums like this then it can only be a good thing for the preservation of the species! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytiger Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Lewis said: I don't remember exactly what it was which I didn't really like about the shielder chassis, but I walked away from their stand thinking that when I buy that it will be marshland It will be interesting going forward as it seems that Marsland are now branded as Britpart (not sure if the Chassis' are delivered in blue boxes LOL). It also proved impossible for me to get a price directly from Marsland and when I got a dealer to enquire for me I was told £2500 + the dreaded (£3k), although I did see that Rimmers (who list them at £3031) are offering to price match on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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