Stellaghost Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, dangerous doug said: If you have one I would blast that with ac tig to pull the imperfections out of the castings before just hitting it with the spool gun. I do have one, however the spool gun seems to manage well enough, also if you read the comparisons between the two,the spool gun seems to have the edge for thicker material, not that I had any issues making my lightweight door and top out of thin material Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Doug wasn't on about welding it with the TIG, just cleaning the metal up with the TIG before you weld it with the spool gun. The AC will clean the oxides and the heat will boil the oils out of the castings. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, CwazyWabbit said: Doug wasn't on about welding it with the TIG, just cleaning the metal up with the TIG before you weld it with the spool gun. The AC will clean the oxides and the heat will boil the oils out of the castings. Exactly this You don’t need the filler, just blast it with the arc and you’ll see all the junk coming out. When you’re done you should have a shiny surface to attack with the spool gun 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnoK Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 20 hours ago, Stellaghost said: So cutting of adaptor parts this morning (sorry to disappoint you @Ed Poore ) Voilà Sort of mounted together will be some issues with bolts but I figure I can mill down through bolt holes then enlarge to take Allen bolt head ( smaller than using conventional bolts probably need to clean things up, dig out spool gun, mate box to engine with loose bits in-between and tack together, pretty sure it will not go as smooth as talking it Regards Stephen A mate of mine has a GM 6.2 V8 on an R380 with a very similar arrangement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stellaghost Posted August 20, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2023 So had a bit of a faff on mating engine and gearbox up but I think I've got it sussed First the bits to tack fitted then with the help of a couple of these little fellas to help with alignment took the plugs out, that ended up being a nightmare as one of them broke had to use a long screwdriver, grease and compressed air to get all the little bits of ceramic out, also that plug was very tight anyway enging turning through gearbox mainshaft and all feels good clamped together just need to find where i can get in to put a couple of tacks on so i can then dismantle and weld up Regards Stephen 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I like those jack blocks, very useful. All looking good so far. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 Well so far so good, managed to get a couple of ropey tacks on with the spool gun, enough to allow me to dismantle. measured the width with a vernier and it's relatively the same thickness all round it varies by about 0.25mm, sure i will be able to get that even tomorrow Think i will use tig after all it will give me a bit more control All in all very happy Regards Stephen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Fab work as usual (and fast...) Just noticed how "fat" the machined down TDI flywheel is. How heavy is it compared to the original 'Yota one? Might make the V8 lazy if too much mass there? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, TD5toV8110 said: How heavy is it compared to the original 'Yota one? Was a flex plate and torque converter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, TD5toV8110 said: Fab work as usual (and fast...) Just noticed how "fat" the machined down TDI flywheel is. How heavy is it compared to the original 'Yota one? Might make the V8 lazy if too much mass there? 🤔 Thanks Have not weighed it, yota one was a flexi-disc for an auto box, never had lazy issues with previous V8's, so should be ok Regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ed Poore said: Was a flex plate and torque converter. I’d have thought fairly comparable then weight wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, landroversforever said: I’d have thought fairly comparable then weight wise. I could weigh them tomorrow if I remember Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Torque converters are heavy..... Plus ~3 lites of fluid in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnoK Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Stellaghost said: Well so far so good, managed to get a couple of ropey tacks on with the spool gun, enough to allow me to dismantle. That tack looks like it's pre-cracked....😜🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 13 hours ago, TD5toV8110 said: Might make the V8 lazy if too much mass there? 🤔 Off-road lazy is good. When I first put the 3.9 in the 109 it had a lightweight SD1 flywheel and it was super easy to stall it off-road on technical stuff, swapping to a heavier Range Rover flywheel made a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 So had a weigh off.. Toyota TC and flexi comes in at 19kg Tdi and clutch comes in at 21.7kg So not that much in it Regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Adaptor Welded up with a combination of tig and spool gun Some of the better welding welding not pretty but its stuck and has blended not too bad although I'm not sure this method is going to work Cover for starter Welded in and blended Re drilling holes with mill to machine away excessive weld why do i think its not going to work, not enough meat to mill to allow for cap heads, but we will see once they arrive, I'm not hopefull If I do have to cast an adaptor at least I've got all the hole positions Regards Stephen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Failing fast is much better than taking months to come to the same conclusion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Would countersunk screws give you any more room instead of socket caps? Or socket button head? If you do end up casting this adaptor can be used as a pattern, just build it up with filler to the desired shape/ draught angles to suit? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Can you Weld a tube in to the adapter and use a longer bolt? Could even do it dirty and weld the steel bolt in with the ali and then extract said bolt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 In preparation just in case, some steel rolled up to form a mould regards Stephen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Honestly I can hardly keep-up. Amazing progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 hours ago, CwazyWabbit said: Failing fast is much better than taking months to come to the same conclusion. fail, faIL FAIL.... GOD DAMN I DONT DO FAIL........lol Regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Agreed This will work, I'm confident. After all it follows the whole ethos of your build, made from what you have lying around Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Stellaghost said: fail, faIL FAIL.... GOD DAMN I DONT DO FAIL........lol Regards Stephen Technically it wouldn't be a fail just a re-think.... Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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