cackshifter Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Hi, Just wondered if anyone had ever tried using Speedi-sleeves to recover worn sealing surfaces. They're a very thin hardened and well finished wear sleeve that you drive over a worn seal surface to create a new one without having to replace the item being sealed, or needind to get a different seal. SKF (Chicago Rawhide) make them so they can't be too bad. I have a worn diff flange and worn tfr box flange, and before shelling out for new wondered about trying these. They even do especially hardened versions for abrasive conditions. See http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/product...p;newlink=4_5_4 Regards Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megansfolly Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 yep i ve used one on my stub axle with success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks for the response, that does generally sound like a good idea then. Was it difficult to put on? Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Hi, I'm thinking of using one on my steering output shaft as it is obviously scored causing the seal to fail. The steering box works fine, just the oil leak is the problem. The problem is now finding the diameter of the steering output shaft so that i can go ahead and order one. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 I too have a leaky steering box... Not a bad idea at all to try one there. In the past I have always tried to repolish things when changing seals, as sometimes the old surface is very rough. Or even to not quite insert the seal fully so it bears on a new bit of shaft. It must help slightly too to increase the diameter it's trying to seal . Even on new items the sealing surfce can be quite rough so anything you can do to reduce the roughness must help seal life (and lets face it we need all the help we can get). Nigel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megansfolly Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 very easy to fit i nicked this from another forum In this picture (sorry about the focus) you can see the surface is badly scored. A new seal on this will last no time. My solution is to fit a "Speedy sleeve" to "repair" the surface. As you can see it is a thin sleeve which goes over the existing. Ready to be pushed on. With applicator. (Also notice the step at the bottom. Will come to that in a minute) Pushed on. Removing the step. then just trim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Where did you purchase yours from - straight from SKF or a local dealer? What is the price range for these sleeves? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You should be able to get them at any decent bearing/seal supplier . I used them quite a bit on cranks stub axles etc in OZ . They use the applicator that protects them in transit (comes in box) Good item never had any bother with them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megansfolly Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 stub axle one was 8 quid i think got it from a bearing place i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard14 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 very easy to fit i nicked this from another forumIn this picture (sorry about the focus) you can see the surface is badly scored. A new seal on this will last no time. My solution is to fit a "Speedy sleeve" to "repair" the surface. As you can see it is a thin sleeve which goes over the existing. Ready to be pushed on. With applicator. (Also notice the step at the bottom. Will come to that in a minute) Pushed on. Removing the step. then just trim Brilliant. Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNissanPrairie Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 They work well, have used em for years in the chemical industry on pumps etc. Also fitted to an input shaft on a PAS 6 bolt box with no probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Another here that's used them to repair buggered stub axles on Rovers. None have leaked since AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well it sounds like the news on these is pretty good, as generally it has to be cheaper than replacing the part (ignoring the benefit to the planet etc) but it might also even improve on the original as I have had parts (albeit for Minis) in the past with fairly rough surfaces and ended up polishing them before fitting.. As steve200tdi said, the problem is knowing the size to get before stripping, so maybe it would be good if we recorded them. Knowing this I'll definitely run a vernier over things as I come across them. Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Anyone know the size for the hub seal bit on the stub axle then ? Sooner or later we all have a bit of trouble with these Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Well it sounds like the news on these is pretty good, as generally it has to be cheaper than replacing the part (ignoring the benefit to the planet etc) but it might also even improve on the original as I have had parts (albeit for Minis) in the past with fairly rough surfaces and ended up polishing them before fitting.. As steve200tdi said, the problem is knowing the size to get before stripping, so maybe it would be good if we recorded them. Knowing this I'll definitely run a vernier over things as I come across them.Nigel This is the very problem, knowing the size! This is another plea for sizes of steering box output shaft and (from Mo) the size for the hub seal bit on the stub axle then! Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Well as Steve is so insistent , I've just found a stub axle (in fact, a pair and measured them both) and measured the bit that the hub seal runs on and it is 60mm on both (300 Disco stub axle). There, the ball is rolling Drive flanges and steering box output and input shaft sizes next, I think. Who's got any of these knocking around that they can measure? If we get enough sizes together I'll put a post together for the tech archive. HTH Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco_al Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 PDF list of sizes here http://www.skfmarcomms.co.uk/focus/images/Speedi-Sleeve.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Well found Al Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Smith Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Dragging up an old thread here. 200Tdi Defender 110 Disk front drum rear. Is the stub axle seal 60mm on this too, I'm thinking they are the same diameter as Disco just a different length stub axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Wonder what size the rear crank oil seal land on a 200tdi is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 im up for measuring bits as and when to build up a cross reference table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggervan Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Yes I have used them on crank shafts and front axels on many an old tractor with great success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Anyone using one of these on a steering output shaft? Getting pretty bored of the leak now despite changing the seals The size would be helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmmv Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I'm sorry I don't know the size, but I do vaguely recall Mike at Britannica Restorations in his steering box rebuild videos saying he couldn't use a speedisleeve, as he couldn't remove it for a future rebuild. You can remove them by warming them, so he may not be 100% correct in that assertion. Seems an obvious to me to use a gold one if possible which is especially hardened as it in a vulnerable spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, L19MUD said: Anyone using one of these on a steering output shaft? Getting pretty bored of the leak now despite changing the seals The size would be helpful! That fella who did up a disco 1 used one i seem to recall. I cant remember his username though. Name was Nigel but dont think that was his username on here. He stated the size and how to do it from what i remember. I think there was something about the lip.on the sleeve. @Nigelw - remembered his name. Search his posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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