Bell-Auto-Services Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 As a lot of you know i built the first 2.7L TDV6 defender as a challange car as a mini project 18 months or so agao, well im now nearly ready to start to build a new defender using the new TDV6 3.0L from the D4/RRS 2010. Im thinking possibily down the lines of a 110 or possibily a 130 and building a overland type car with duel fuel tanks, water tanks etc etc only because the challange car i built has got a limited aftersale market and untimatly this build will also eventually end up getting sold on. So ideal welcome Below is my donor TDV6 3.0L engine. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlandy Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Id go 130 always have good resale and demand is stronger and supply. Search a chap on here and pirate called oilworker he has a immaculate 130 equipped with tibus portal axles .I reckon something along those lines could be desirable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 A really tidy well specced 110station wagon or double cab would probably be the most sellable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBULL Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 make it a well specced 110 5 door utility and hopefully I win the lotto before it go's up for sale and I'll buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I know jacksh*t about overlanders but one look at that lot of wiring and the thought of being in the middle of beyond and my pulse rate increased by 50 beats I'm sure you'll write out a book of destructions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedef90 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Why would that wiring frighten you??? If you look on other forums there are numourous expeds going to Tunisia/Morocco/N Africa and taking D3/D4/FFRR/RRS. As long as you don't kick the arse out of anything you should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I reckon a well sorted 110 County or XS or Utility would sell the best post conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 As long as you don't kick the arse out of anything you should be fine But, as you'll no doubt agree, there isn't much that is fixable in the field is there? Hardly follows the KISS mantra. Each to their own though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I would also put my vote to a 130. Search a chap on here and pirate called oilworker he has a immaculate 130 equipped with tibus portal axles .I reckon something along those lines could be desirable You mean this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 But, as you'll no doubt agree, there isn't much that is fixable in the field is there? Hardly follows the KISS mantra. Each to their own though I thought the idea with over-landers was to leave the vehicle's wiring standard, install a 2nd battery and split charge, and run all the toys/extras off that. In other words keeping the essentials exactly as per the LR wiring diagram (and draw an accurate diagram of the 'bolt ons'). If you do wiring properly, it should have a high degree of reliability; if you're struggling with loose connections and the like half way across the wild wherethefakarwee plains of Africa you haven't prepped your vehicle properly, IMHO. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail etc. Anyhoo, rant over. Another vote for a 110 SW or double cab. 130s are great for overlanders etc but I suspect you'll have a broader 'domestic market' appeal with a 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I thought the idea with over-landers was to leave the vehicle's wiring standard, install a 2nd battery and split charge, and run all the toys/extras off that. In other words keeping the essentials exactly as per the LR wiring diagram (and draw an accurate diagram of the 'bolt ons'). If you do wiring properly, it should have a high degree of reliability; if you're struggling with loose connections and the like half way across the wild wherethefakarwee plains of Africa you haven't prepped your vehicle properly, IMHO. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail etc. Defender+TDV6= pretty non standard wiring. However I agree with you on the SW or double cab 110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Defender+TDV6= pretty non standard wiring. Sorry, wasn't v clear in my last post. Essentially this will be less appealing to overlanders precisely because it's non-standard, therefore I suggest plumping for a 110... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Put it in an RRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Sorry, wasn't v clear in my last post. Essentially this will be less appealing to overlanders precisely because it's non-standard, therefore I suggest plumping for a 110... <searches for thumbs up emoticon without success> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Put it in an RRC. I was going to say that ^^^ a nice wealthy arab buyer might come out of the woodwork for a classy RRC A 110 5 door commercial station wagon would probably be the easiest to sell I reckon. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 How much would it sell for? If within budget, a 130 please... - extra tanks, - Airco but retained front flaps - flat floor in cab, - Masai roof lights or tropical roof, - Utility rear box Oh, and VAT-less, as export to EU to VAT registered company... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_P Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Are these engines very difficult to get working without the rest of the donor car and stuff? Or is it a bit like EFi-ing a Defender using RRC/Disco bits and one ECU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Tonkin Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I would build it up as a luxury 110, not chaved up, just optimised for the Country gent who needs to drive on the motorway. I agree with the previous poster on the overland idea. I would want to make sure that my overland vehicle was as mechanically similar to standard as possible to avoid parts problems or confusion when at the back of beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 As an overland vehicle with a TDV6 and built up with a lot of other o/land kit, the market will be similar to your challenge truck , as you will be looking for the sort of person that goes and buys a new unimog and has it built up by a german campervan firm (mentioning no names) . Majority of overlanders are on a limited budget and looking for simplicity rather than huge power and speed compared with 300 tdi. I have a 3.9i V8 in my "overland " 110 but most travellers that I met thought it mad, but i could not face the power to weight ratio of a small 4cyl diesel dragging 3.5 tonnes+ thru sand /mud etc. I think you need to aim for the guys who buy a new 110 puma and load it with accessories they will never use. rushing up and down motorways , there seems to be quite a lot of them , and increasing . JMHO ps if petrol keeps going the way it is I am thinking of putting a TDV6 to replace the V8 myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Forget a Defender, put it into a mint Discovery 2 and I will buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 he he, put it a series 3, and watch jaws drop as you pull off from the lights like a flash! When i win the lottery i would try that in mine........... G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 <searches for thumbs up emoticon without success> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gruntus Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 A thing of Beauty! Pete, As you have already done a 2.7 I presume the process will be similar in terms of electrics? For us curious types walking a higher path (200TDi with a 12v supply to the fuel solenoid and thats it )how do you overcome the complexities of all the inputs for the various sensors? I presume there are no dummy plugs or emulators that can be fitted to fool the system into thinking all is good? Mores the point wheres the piccies of the 2.7 youve already done! It would be great to follow a blog of the build(s) if you havent already done so...... All the best Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Nice 110 double cab/SW/Utility SW Freelander 1 RRC would be nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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