L19MUD Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, landroversforever said: Doesn’t solve the issue of needing the legs to clear the wheels if Mike wants to remove the box. Further back in this I shared a picture of my removable box. The legs are fixed to box section which slide into bigger box section on the body. I made mine wide enough to easily reverse the trailer in each time but equally would allow the box to clear the wheels Edit - added picture 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 Ross it's indespension axles. Something along the lines of above is what I'll need. I want something that will act as steady legs to, so perhaps a removable extension for the front two. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, miketomcat said: Ross it's indespension axles. Something along the lines of above is what I'll need. I want something that will act as steady legs to, so perhaps a removable extension for the front two. Mike @miketomcat if you can knock up a sketch of what you need I should have enough steel kicking around to fab something up for you......Could bring it down at Summer sisters if that's not too late Regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, miketomcat said: Ross it's indespension axles. Something along the lines of above is what I'll need. I want something that will act as steady legs to, so perhaps a removable extension for the front two. Mike Could their mounts be re-drilled to spread them a bit further apart then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 Stephen that is a very generous offer. I'm going to look at off the shelf options first but if nothing works I'll shout. Ross they could but as I mentioned earlier I don't think it'll be the best option. I'll get the wife to draw it up now we have all the dimensions. This will allow us to see if the proportions work and finalize the layout. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 In use as steady legs, locate them all the way in and for box removal make the horizontal long enough to clear the wheels- it won't be in use as a camper at this point and the right size box and receiver will work fine. I've made one or two very similar set ups which all work well. Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, miketomcat said: Stephen that is a very generous offer. I'm going to look at off the shelf options first Mike Ok no problem Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: Ok no problem Regards Stephen I think he's more worried he'll need an artic to pull the trailer if you're let near it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ed Poore said: I think he's more worried he'll need an artic to pull the trailer if you're let near it. I CAN DO LIGHT..............I think..... Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Stellaghost said: I CAN DO LIGHT..............I think..... Regards Stephen Just not Lights....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: I CAN DO LIGHT..............I think..... Regards Stephen Light is relative... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 A million years ago in an alternate universe @Astro_Al was using alloy scaffolding screw jacks for something or other - they're cheap, robust, and very light compared to all these big lumps of steel box section I'm seeing posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: A million years ago in an alternate universe @Astro_Al was using alloy scaffolding screw jacks for something or other - they're cheap, robust, and very light compared to all these big lumps of steel box section I'm seeing posted. Those are fine for stabilising but not good for actually lifting the weight of the trailer as you have no leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 17 hours ago, Ed Poore said: Put some twist locks in the corner and some jacking legs then you still have a usable trailer Good idea, but means everything needs to be contained to the box - water tanks, batteries, electric hookup, ... Not a big issue, but definitely needs to be taken into account, and may take away some usable interior space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 I'm currently thinking caravan style stablizing legs and a pair (may need 4)of modified axle stands. I need legs anyway and caravan legs work well, tuck up out the way and are galv. I only need about 200mm lift so this could be done with blocks under the legs then some axle stands with a horizontal tube that slides into a tube on the box. I can probably get away with the stands only at the front. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, elbekko said: Good idea, but means everything needs to be contained to the box - water tanks, batteries, electric hookup, ... Not a big issue, but definitely needs to be taken into account, and may take away some usable interior space. Everything was going to be in or on the box anyway. It'll only be two cables running down the A frame to deal with. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Watching with interest Mike,... on the tyre front I just wonder how much 'Off-road' capability is really needed? Land Rover size wheels do put the c.o.g. up as well as ground clearance and I am guessing that on road manners (up to the West coast of Sctland?) are almost as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Yes this is why I'm thinking the 24" tyres will suffice. I was originally thinking 29" after realising that matching the tow vehicle (33") wasn't going to work. We've also ended up twin axle which should allow it to float a wheel over a hole thus reducing the need for big ground clearance. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post miketomcat Posted March 11, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 Wife has been doing some drawing. This is the new trailer in position under the box with the box extension shown. 24"tyres giving 300mm ground clearance and an overall height of just shy of 2.6m. Unfortunately I've found two cracks in the trailer chassis but they can be welded up easy enough. Mike 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I follow a you tube channel called Merlins Old School Garage. He makes trailer legs with scissor jacks. He replaces the winding lug with a bolt head and uses a dugga dugga to operate the screw. Because that are fitted to the chassis, there seems to be very little torsional twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thanks Dave I'll have a look. I'm torn between the caravan style and the wind down legs, it'll probably come down to price. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Caravan style are good - don't forget they are also fitted to trailer tents and folding campers, so cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 10:41 AM, miketomcat said: I was hoping to go lr wheels but the axle spacing is to close for all but the most obscure size 15" tyre. However these will work. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165760981595?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rm76U2JcRwK&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=rj9sNdGlTqa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Just shy of 24" which will bring the overall height down nicely but hopefully won't reduce ground clearance to much. The down side is the current wheels are 12", anyone want to swap for some 13's . Mike I've got one 13" rim with a tyre on it you can have, so you only need to get another 4 now......lol regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 That would make a perfect spare Stephen and would be greatly appreciated if your sure you don't need it. If it made its way to seven sisters I'm sure someone there can get it the rest of the way. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, miketomcat said: That would make a perfect spare Stephen and would be greatly appreciated if your sure you don't need it. If it made its way to seven sisters I'm sure someone there can get it the rest of the way. Mike It's absolutely no good to me, another one of my take it home instead of scrapping it objects Will bring it down to Seven Sisters in june Regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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