Anderzander Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Having read the Ineos and the new defender threads: Indulge me folks - I’m interested in what we think the state of the 4x4 world is. So I’ll ask a ridiculous question ....Thinking of the type of journeys that built Land Rovers reputation.... Imagine you are in the market for an off road vehicle - that had to be brand new; which one would you buy to: A. Get an aid worker to a remote outback/steppes type location. B. Get a scientist around Kamchatka- with all its mountains, volcanoes, and glaciers C. Re-Launch the Camel Trophy ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 ........Toyota Land Cruiser in the base export spec for NGO''s The thing is that your list is about the only application for this type of truck , most frequently travelled roads are tarmac I would suggest , from the point of view of a manufacturer selling many K's of vehicles to make money . Toyota are huge and can subsidise niche markets ... Steve b 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Toyota, or the Iveco Daily 4x4, just because I think they look cool: http://pickupand4x4.co.uk/iveco-daily-4x4-review/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Something not right with that link, it doesn't load properly on Chrome or Windows edge browsers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Works fine on chrome for me 👍 Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Fine here, maybe just a broken advert at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Link works for me. We're looking a the moment getting a Daily 4x4 for work (and some play..) They're very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Definitely more of a 'truck' though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Specifications sound good, 3l diesel, full diff locks twin reduction gears. All it needs is a Defender body transplanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, ballcock said: Specifications sound good, 3l diesel, full diff locks twin reduction gears. All it needs is a Defender body transplanted. And a defender body is only a box, so how hard can it be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 13 hours ago, western said: Something not right with that link, it doesn't load properly on Chrome or Windows edge browsers. Seems to be OK now, that's a decent looking motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I wonder how good the articulation is? As it has parabolics front and rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Is the Daily4x4 still available in the U.K.? It wasn’t on their website last year and I emailed Iveco and never had a response. As for flex. Middling but not extreme. But it is designed to carry a lot of weight. There are some review vids on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 20 hours ago, Anderzander said: Having read the Ineos and the new defender threads: Indulge me folks - I’m interested in what we think the state of the 4x4 world is. So I’ll ask a ridiculous question ....Thinking of the type of journeys that built Land Rovers reputation.... Imagine you are in the market for an off road vehicle - that had to be brand new; which one would you buy to: A. Get an aid worker to a remote outback/steppes type location. B. Get a scientist around Kamchatka- with all its mountains, volcanoes, and glaciers C. Re-Launch the Camel Trophy ... Assuming you mean light passenger class of vehicles and not a Uninog. Then the Wrangler is still a highly capable vehicle, either standard or modified. They lack the rated towing ability and are clearly aimed at being a recreational lifestyle vehicle, rather than a utility one. But none the less there is no denying what they can do. The Chevy Colorado ZR2 is a pretty impressive pickup truck. Front and rear lockers. Good suspension and very capable. Can be had with a 3.6 direct injection petrol or a 2.8 litre Duramax turbo diesel. A bit long overall and IFS for to ever be the ultimate off road. But good none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 And then there is .... https://www.motorbiscuit.com/worlds-most-badass-rv-the-mercedes-benz-zetros-2733-a-6x6/ Bit big maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Best 4x4 for stuff LR made it's name for? Since 1960's 70's? NOTHING LR!! Best offroaded 4x4 I would say look at the Austrailian use as this is more gruelling tha Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 "..I emailed Iveco and never had a response..." No, comms with Iveco requires a lot of patience and persistence. Articulation is not bad but the lockers are there for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I had a 4010 1993 vintage, brilliant machine ..... great load carrier for larger/longer excursions. I had as much confidence in it off-road as the 110 which had detroits front and rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 They're getting a bit mature, the 40-10's, and corrosion is a serious issue with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 True, I had to do some welding, but there are a few now with the later cabs grafted on. The chassis and drive train were essentially the same, and there are plenty of high mileage 2wd later ones for chicken feed. I would have had a crack at the swap if I'd kept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 This one is a bit different - independent front suspension 4x4 , I came across this several years ago , the owner was living and travelling the world in it cheers Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Iveco 40-10 based by a well known French supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 OP was asking about BRAND NEW vehicles As has been said, Australian interior would be more challenging. TBH I cant think of anything modern I would want to attempt it with, in a situation where there was little hope of rescue. I just dont trust the reliance on electronics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I know I'm biased but the only brand new vehicle I would take around the world is a foers ibex f8. You can buy one factory built to any spec you want. If your cunning you pick a reconditioned engine, which means you can have a clockwork diesel be it Merc/200tdi or whatever else you fancy. You want 6x6 and a camper body no problem, personally I'd probably go somewhere around 130 wheel base because the body would only be a foot longer than a 110. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Ford Bronco? Just saying The Wrangler Pick Up has potential options (we just don't get the decent engine) Having worked for a supplier of vehicles to NGO's (Toyota Gibraltar Stock-holdings) I can tell you one of the best things about Toyota is there ability to be stripped and rebuilt quickly. We had a 78 come in to the workshop that had hit an anti-personel mine; it was back out to another NGO (CAFOD) in a week. It's not reliability - it's the ability to last longer with no maintenance. One of the best trucks Toyota had as an aid vehicle option was the Mk 4 Hi-lux, with a NAD 2.8 petrol or diesel. Crew cab, air con, hard top back. All of them had an LSD in the back and TJM 2" lift. That's why the MK 4 was still produced ROW until 2015! I'd agree with Mike - the Ibex is ideal for Aid Agencies and the like. Endless options. Simple. Strong. easy to work on. The other option is the G wagen - still offered in commercial 460 and 461 spec 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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