Landy-Novice Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 the amount of ripples on the defender, a dark colored defender on a sunny day looks awful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Part1cle Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Second the door catches on a Defender or does that only apply to us more generously proportioned types? The shape of the Defender bonnet - after going through fords or when its raining it gets water on the top that sits between the side ridges in a sort of puddle, when slowing down it moves forward and then gets blown up onto the windscreen - usually just after switching the wipers off. D1 - that plastic cover/trim panel on the rear bumper that rubs the black paint away and then goes rusty. D1 again - those nasty slider switches for the heater/aircon fan. All adds character, I could go on, but lunch isn't that long where I work......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The water on the bonnet happens with the new freelander 2 aswell. Funny to watch the water movibng up the bonnet as the car moves along the road. Instead of a spare wheel for the freelander you now get a can of gel and a mini compressor that has the worst instructions ever. Agree with the discovery 1 rear lights. Seatbelts getting caught in the door of my D1 when you try to close it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Second the door catches on a Defender or does that only apply to us more generously proportioned types? I'm a skinny bugger and I still catch my clothing on the damn things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdderlyOffroad Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Defender: I'll ignore the 'ergonomic' issues (nowhere to put your right/left arm) as these are hangups from the original series vehicles... Worst piece of LR Design has to be the 'value engineering' (AKA knowing the cost of everything but the value of nothing): Gear box filler plugs, deletion of Mixing of metals and omission of galvanic isolation/protection Varying trim levels (ok) but no noise insulation on base spec (not ok). Lack of difflock (on Disco 2s) But worst culprit of all has to be: Value-engineered wiring and connectors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 When they decided to change steel suppliers in the early 90's meaning their vehicle rusted out in half the time of earlier models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The fact that your chassis isn't galvanised is not allowed! stuff that!!, they should be stainless steel as standard!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The Lucas fuel injection system..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 the amount of ripples on the defender, a dark colored defender on a sunny day looks awful! I saw a black Defender being assembled at Solihull and it looked like it needed ironing!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The TD5 bonnet release catch has to be in the list somewhere. My left foot keeps catching the flamin' thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 A lack of a coolant drain plug is mighty irritating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The freelander VCU (why not do a little more and put a transfer box in there?!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Clutch forks that punch through, and clutch master cyliners positioned to catch the rain when you open the bonnet, yet only a trained cockroach can see into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I saw a black Defender being assembled at Solihull and it looked like it needed ironing!!!! you have been there?? do you now what the cause of it is? c**p machinery and/or materials? i would lover to know why is got worst over the years, ive seen quite a few OLD 110 vans lookin' sweeet, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickdulas Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The shape of the Defender bonnet - after going through fords or when its raining it gets water on the top that sits between the side ridges in a sort of puddle, when slowing down it moves forward and then gets blown up onto the windscreen - usually just after switching the wipers off. If it's raining just enough and you get your speed just right you can create a sort of mini bow wave on the leading edge of your bonnet. Try it, it keeps your mind off the fact that your right knee, seat, carpets etc are getting wet from all the water coming in through various other gaps in the panels Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 you have been there?? do you now what the cause of it is? c**p machinery and/or materials? i would lover to know why is got worst over the years, ive seen quite a few OLD 110 vans lookin' sweeet, Might be something to do with the fact that the ally panels are a lot thinner than they used to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Mate has purchased a BRAND New Range Rover Sport £60k and the turbo hose fialed at a few thousand miles in "Oh yes sir thats warranty, but we will need it for a while - we have to remove the bodyshell to do that " He is not a happy bunny Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 The 'kin door catches on my defender that keep catching my trousers when i exit the thing You know you can fix that by sanding off the edge that catches? Also, the seatbelt catching in the door can be fixed by tying a loop of elastic round the belt and the metal bracket that supports the seat back. It doesn't affect the belt operation but pulls the belt inside when you release it. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 the P38 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 air springs, steel bulkheads, door hinges, anything that has been replaced with britpart, the bit of the loom on a TD5 that oil travels up, the weak diffs, the old non anti burst door latches.... need i go on. but i love em all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 It's a funny thing, I used to have a S3 SW which I put a lot of heart and soul into and loved dearly, eventually the rust caught up with it and a succession of classic RRs followed. I LOVED my RRs, comfy, laid back and fun to own, if juicy. This year I drove a certain blue 110 to Billing. By the time I got to the end of our road I realised that:- - The steering is vague. - The clutch is REALLY heavy. - The drivers door is HARD! on my elbow. - The seat is too close to everything. - The hand brake lever wears a hole in my leg. - The mirrors vibrate. - Who the hell thought the heater controls were a good idea?! I could go on....... However, by the time I got to Billing I had realised that I NEED another proper Land Rover. How do they do that? I should probably point out that on the plus side, traveling loaded (with over half a ton of stock and 3 people with a weekends kit), body roll was much less than I recall. Must be the anti-roll bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 you have been there?? do you now what the cause of it is? c**p machinery and/or materials? i would lover to know why is got worst over the years, ive seen quite a few OLD 110 vans lookin' sweeet, The machinery (particularly the press) looks good, so I guess its down to the spot welds putting stress in the panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 , the bit of the loom on a TD5 that oil travels up, eyy? thats gravity defying!!! land rover could be on to a 'anti gravity' break through!!!! :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve King Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Owners of more modern Defenders will undoubtedly be impressed with the range of the central locking remote that can (sometimes) lock/unlock the car from an incredible distance of 2 feet! The central locking is decidedly temperamental and sometimes decides not to let you in at all for a few minutes (normally this is when it is pi**ing down with rain)!!!! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 May I add the access to the bleed nipple on the 200 defender clutch, the ridiculous bumper 'captive' nuts, the vent 'seals', the axles that arent up to the job, the lack of a decently powerful diesel engine... Apart from that, and the above, they're boss! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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