CwazyWabbit Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 ...... 2) device / to lock the axles to stop a tow/push theft. (modded x brake) where the device cant be applied in motion. ..... This is quite difficult to achieve. Just locking the hand brake on won't work as you can remove a drive member on the rear axle and just roll her away, if you were to lock both props somehow (perhaps locking centre diff) you could remove a drive member from each axle and still roll her away. It's only 5 bolts to remove a drive member and doesn't need the wheel to be removed if you have steel wheels. The only real way would be to have a lock acting on the actual hub/brake disk. PS the Rat Trap lock looks to basically just lock the rear output flange of the transfer box effectively doing as you say but is very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I think before going too far down the complicated security device route it might be worth doing the research on HOW most landies get nicked in the 1st place, if it's "with a HIAB on a low loader" you're wasting your time locking the wheels / pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hiab / low loader = 1% of thefts. Most specifically stolen to order. Planned / Targeted = 19% Opportunistic = 80% Data from 2012. Thus 99% of thefts you can do something about - and 80% relatively easily! You decide if it's worthwhile. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I would agree with your comments Si, my 110 has had two attempted thefts on it. The Hiab brigade would have had it either time. First attempted theft they were defeated by a bright yellow pedal lock that they hadn't noticed until they had turned the ignition on and second time by a newer version door barrel. The second attempt I'm not sure whether it fell into planned/targeted of just opportunist, they made a number of attempts to get in and also drove past it many times waiting for the road to be quiet .... either way they were still foiled by a very simple problem. Any measure taken is worthwhile if it slows them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 How about a few more series products,... or a set of discreet rock sliderstar. Over on the Series 2 Club forum, Mill Services are currently getting positive reviews for both their products and their Customer Service ethos. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Tentatively related... Our local Morrisons had its ATM Machine ripped out last night by a stolen blue Land Rover Defender: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-30913944 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 What about disk locks like a motorcycle has ? Both front discs having say a few 10 mm hole through it around the radius - kind of like drilled disks and then a pair of big tough padlocks locked through them. You'd just need to make bloody sure you remembered to remove them before setting off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Having dropped a bike due to forgetting my disc lock, I think you could do a whole load of damage if you forgot it. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I've done that too Mike ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Me three! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have the grp doors and they are very light and strong but quite brittle, if you catch something sharp they chip easily, and you have to be super careful doing bolts up etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddychris300tdi Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Talking of security, some little ****s had a rummage through my passat last night. So I think I'm going to have a look at cctv before a bring my new 130 home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 A man with your engineering skills and access to a well equipped workshop like you have at work should be able to knock one up Ed. It's the time! Got so much on at the moment its ridiculous, plus I'm in the middle of refitting the mill with new CNC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 something i have been really missing for a long time, especially with the amount of times i have rebuilt series boxes: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-Gearbox-Overdrive-Mainshaft-Nut-Tool-600300-/151633873915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234e154bfb surely it can be made and sold for less than £85?? at £25 I would have one tomorrow. i would make one if i had access to a decent mill and lathe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 something i have been really missing for a long time, especially with the amount of times i have rebuilt series boxes: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-Gearbox-Overdrive-Mainshaft-Nut-Tool-600300-/151633873915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234e154bfb surely it can be made and sold for less than £85?? at £25 I would have one tomorrow. i would make one if i had access to a decent mill and lathe! That's what I'd charge to make one...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Unfortunately it's supply & demand - there is very little demand, so it's not worth mass producing them and the cost reflects that. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 when i was messing about with series vehicles, i spent about 20 mins and an angle grinder , and made one from a piece of scaffold pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I keep threatening to do that, but I never have any pipe around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 An update! For the last 10 months, I've been employed as Chief Engineer at a local company. On Monday, I decided it sucks - and resigned! I'm going to have another go at a mixture of products, including Land Rover related. This time however, I'm going to try to be mostly wholesale to avoid the endless packing boxes - and try to choose products which either have sufficient margin to wholesale, or I can sell in enough volume that the margin is less of an issue. One thing I've been working on is this: (Early 3D Printed prototype) Which is a lock for your OBDII port on Td5 & Later Defenders plus all other vehicles made after 2003 or there abouts. Why? Assuming someone has defeated the mechanical security on a vehicle, you need to overcome the immobiliser. If you plug in to the OBD port, this is easy, just program the ECU to accept your key fob. This is an even bigger problem for any vehicle with key-less start - then you don't even have to break anything, just have the fob in your pocket and a box of tricks to do the programming (costing about £300). While you could bust the connector and connect directly to the wires, not being able to plug in directly will add a few minutes to the theft - and may deter them altogether. This falls in to the latter category as they can be sold to any (newish) car owner. I think initially, I'm going to concentrate on security. There are a lot of good ideas here - I've just re-read the thread. I'll have a look at storage solutions as well as there is some mileage in that. Just need to come up with a company name which has not been registered and the domain is available. No, Y-Eng is not going to fly! I've registered Armour-Tech as a stop-gap. Si 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Congrats Simon The lock looks interesting, any reason for the choice of a combi lock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspark Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Congratulation Si and best of luck (Landrover world product development misses your innovation) Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The lock looks interesting, any reason for the choice of a combi lock? I thought it would be easy! If you've got keyless entry - do you want a product with a key? However, tomorrow I'm going to print a much simpler design which uses a regular (small) padlock. It has an advantage that it's much smaller and will halve the cost to have them cast in steel. One bonus from my current (previous) job has been making friends with a very good and good value casting company in the UK. With the above in mind, I should be able to have a RRP of about £40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I like the idea of the padlock as then the users get the choice of how secure the lock is, also subconsciously they think the product is cheaper. With regards to carrying the key around, I would expect the owner to leave the key at home, if it was a combi lock I'd also expect they would be as likely to remember that as they are to remember their radio code so no doubt would have it written on a slip of paper at home, afterall you don't access your OBDII port every day .... unless you have a really temperamental car..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 unless you have a really temperamental car..... This is a Land Rover forum... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Wow! Great to have the freedom and confidence to make a change like that . Well done and best of luck for the new start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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