reb78 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think my my battery is getting a bit tired. It didn't start the 110 the other day, turned over, then just before it fired it wouldn't turn anymore. Quick jump start and it's been fine since though. The only thing my battery has to do that's beyond the norm is run the eberspacher occasionally for a couple of hours while parked up in the winter. So, maybe a simple question, but I thought I would see what you guys would recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Oh boy. Asking what battery is like asking what tyres... Very personal. I'm running 2 Odessey PC1500's but I will have a lot of accessories, some of which I will want running with engine not running... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Numax XV24MF - it's been going strong in a Td5 for 5 years now with occasional winching. With the heater I'd go for the XV35MF which will still fit in the battery tray but gives more capacity. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Optima red top and an Enduroline cvx1000, the red top only does an amp at the moment but will get more added to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 The plan is to eventually go dual battery and run all of the accessories off of that (don't know when - like most of my projects, sometime in the next three years.... maybe....), but at the moment its just got to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 In that case, I'd get the biggest battery that will physically fit in the battery box.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 used to use 2 x Odyssey pc1700, but they started loosing charge or not holding it over a week or so when 110 not driven, change to 2 of these Yuasa 12V Silver Car Battery HSB019 been very good so far. better value if you have a halfords trade card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Varta agm stop start battery in the ibex (not on the road yet). Red top optima for the truck and a cheap lead acid (tempory to run a fridge on holiday). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffR Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Halfords Calcium hobbies work very well, had one on the V8 for over 5 years now and man does it put up with some abuse, liked the 5 year warranty too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I run a single Numax C-XV31MF. It handles everything including a winch. Alternator is 120A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Man battery on the 110 is just a varta 072 I bought 8 or so years ago and it's been treated quite badly in all honesty and it still keeps going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I have two Odyssey PC1500s under the passenger seat, Starter and Aux, located on a Flatdog stainless tray and held with their non-metallic bar thingy. It just fits. The Aux is used to supply a Waeco coolbox which is quite power hungry through a full 24 hours in hot weather. There's a Durite isolation relay fitted between the two battery positive connections, which has a voltage sense wire connected to the starter. The Aux is therefore charged once the Starter side is at a healthy voltage (usually a few seconds after the engine starts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I was scared off the fancy batteries as there is a possibility of overcharging on long journeys with the basic charging system on Land Rovers. So I just went with an Exide heavy duty that had pretty much the same specs as Land Rovers own heavy duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW8IZR Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 My engine starter is just the biggest wet battery that would fit in the under seat box that leaves enough space for isolator and aux fuse box etc, but from a half decent manufacturer - Yuasa. In the back a Hawker 100ah gel cell for the radio stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Mine came fitted with a Halfords Calcium. Now ~7 years old and just beginning to fade. Will need to replace before winter. My setup is bog standard, no winches etc and the only regular accessory used is a cold box (5A). At the moment I'm dithering whether to go for a well spec'ed battery like the Yuasa Silver, another Halfords, or half way house like the Varta. Whatever I buy it will be a calcium/silver because of the tolerance to stop start use and good charge retention. If you intend to go dual battery there could be problems with mixing deep cycle (leisure) batteries with batteries more suited to stop start - they have different charge/discharge characteristics (obviously!) which means that charging the leisure battery in situ may take a long time or never reach full charge. Think hard about the type of load that you may want to put on a dual battery set up and associated patterns of use before committing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Mine came fitted with a Halfords Calcium. Now ~7 years old and just beginning to fade. Will need to replace before winter. My setup is bog standard, no winches etc and the only regular accessory used is a cold box (5A). At the moment I'm dithering whether to go for a well spec'ed battery like the Yuasa Silver, another Halfords, or half way house like the Varta. Whatever I buy it will be a calcium/silver because of the tolerance to stop start use and good charge retention. If you intend to go dual battery there could be problems with mixing deep cycle (leisure) batteries with batteries more suited to stop start - they have different charge/discharge characteristics (obviously!) which means that charging the leisure battery in situ may take a long time or never reach full charge. Think hard about the type of load that you may want to put on a dual battery set up and associated patterns of use before committing. Eventually.... I also plan to have a second alternator if that makes any difference to the comment above? For now though, this was mainly to gather thoughts on the best single battery for my use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Numax XV24MF - it's been going strong in a Td5 for 5 years now with occasional winching. With the heater I'd go for the XV35MF which will still fit in the battery tray but gives more capacity. Si Si, Do you mean this one?: https://www.tayna.co.uk/XV35MF-Powerline-Leisure-Battery-P8979.html or this one?: https://www.tayna.co.uk/Numax-CXV35MF-P8275.html I'd presumed the latter because its a Numax, but then noticed you didn't say CXV so just wanted to check. Halfords cant get to these prices on the Yuasana ones even with my trade card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Ralph, i'd be sending and Email to them. How long you had them Odysseys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Eventually.... I also plan to have a second alternator if that makes any difference to the comment above? For now though, this was mainly to gather thoughts on the best single battery for my use. Yes, a second alternator rigged as a separate charging circuit would allow a lot more freedom to mix battery types in a dual battery set up. However, I'd be concerned about using a standard LR charge control with either AGM or gel batteries - they can be easily damaged by over charging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 never had any problems with my AGM batteries and the Land Rover Alternator. They like 14.2 volt constant and that what it throws out. In fact most AGM like constant voltage and the fancy smart chargers shag them not the simple alternators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 never had any problems with my AGM batteries and the Land Rover Alternator. They like 14.2 volt constant and that what it throws out. In fact most AGM like constant voltage and the fancy smart chargers shag them not the simple alternators. At 14.2v you should be OK - as your experience would suggest. However, take that to 14.4v for any length of time and you are on the threshold of damage. That threshold is temperature sensitive. Gel batteries are more sensitive than AGM to overcharging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Ralph, i'd be sending and Email to them. How long you had them Odysseys? bought 2 - July 2003, one developed not holding charge symptoms this was replaced by the supplier Feb 2006, the other original purchase has not holding charge symptoms, so both are well out of any warranty. replaced them both with 2 yuasa batts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Why do you need anything special to run an eberspacher for a couple of hours? After the brief startup kick (glow plug) they don't draw much current - I hear you could even resort to maths to work it out but keep it a secret, most people on the internet prefer to just argue about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 Why do you need anything special to run an eberspacher for a couple of hours? After the brief startup kick (glow plug) they don't draw much current - I hear you could even resort to maths to work it out but keep it a secret, most people on the internet prefer to just argue about it. I don't know that I do need anything special but that's why i asked the question .... .... I have a tired battery, this is my intended use... so is there a particular one folks would recommend? I've ordered the Numax that Si suggested now so thanks all for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Two calcium/calcium Delco's. (640CCA) They recently replaced two calcium/calcium SuperCharge batteries that were over ten years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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