Tim2809 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Even osram state not legal as they are not ece approved. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 8:12 PM, Tim2809 said: Even osram state not legal as they are not ece approved. Who's checking? MOT isn't concerned with e marking. "Light source and lamp not compatible" really only come into play when a converted headlamps beam pattern is wrong (as they often are on led and HID converted headlamps) and on most headlamps we only check dip beam for pattern anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 It’s a video more relevant to the smaller lamps, rather than the headlights, but I’m sure the principle is still just as crucial: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I watched that vid a few days ago, when he said got to get some tools I was expecting to see a soldering iron & solder, thought he was going to improve the end terminal with some additional solder, wasn't expecting the result, I won't give it away You will all have to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 It was the principle of how to fix Chinese made LED units and the general comment on their quality that I was referring to.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Well.. On the recommendation of Mr Dangerous Doug I have bought a pair which he has bought and said are bloody good for not much money.. Not much = £50.12 inc vat and UK shipping .and ..that a pair ! E and dot marking etc etc It does seem that anything 7" LR as he says carries a premium price go it ..the exact same for 7"mini is waaay cheaper. At 50 a pair if they are half decent ill be happy ..and if smashed into a tree etc off road won't care. I will do a report/ fitting/ and if any good or carp later when they arrive .. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Hybrid_From_Hell said: Well.. On the recommendation of Mr Dangerous Doug I have bought a pair which he has bought and said are bloody good for not much money.. Not much = £50.12 inc vat and UK shipping . It does seem that anything 7" LR as he says carries a premium price go it ..the exact same for 7"mini is waaay cheaper. At 50 a pair if they are half decent ill be happy ..and if smashed into a tree etc off road won't care. I will do a report/ fitting/ and if any good or carp later when they arrive .. 🙄 hmmmm.... fully E marked at that price ..... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/22/2020 at 5:05 PM, =jon= said: I don't think they do them with the heating elements in the UK, I've never seen it listed as a feature... The only UK spec ones I've see are JW Speakers which are crazy money: https://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/j-w-speaker-evo2-8700-smartheat-dual-burn-led-headlamp-defender-kit-uk-black-heated I am sure I saw them with elements at some point but I think you are right... On the Trucklite website, none of the LED headlamps have heated lenses... https://www.truck-lite.com/27291c-2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hybrid_From_Hell said: Well.. On the recommendation of Mr Dangerous Doug I have bought a pair which he has bought and said are bloody good for not much money.. I will do a report/ fitting/ and if any good or carp later when they arrive .. 🙄 Well, if you’re happy to give it a punt, why not? Pleasant surprises do sometimes happen! I’d be very surprised if the markings are legit at that price, and I’d expect a bad beam pattern, but let’s see what actually transpires... As for the ludicrous mark ups that happen for LR buyers, yep - have you seen what some diff specialists are charging! 😜 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yeah at that money I really don’t see them being legal. There’s lots floating about with fake marks on them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 hours ago, reb78 said: I am sure I saw them with elements at some point but I think you are right... On the Trucklite website, none of the LED headlamps have heated lenses... https://www.truck-lite.com/27291c-2.html https://www.truck-lite.com/27275c3-2.html shows as having a heated lens, but doesn't look like it's ECE approved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 That would be a left hand drive or flat beam version - DoT is US, as is the phone number at the top of the page. Isn’t the raised kerb side beam pattern a legal requirement in the UK, flat cut beams being illegal? I read that somewhere on the net, so it must be true...😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Flat beams are acceptable for the MOT. The headlamp needs to have a clear beam pattern with cut off, contained within the upper/lower, left/right limits. All the kick up does is illuminate the nearside kerb, obviously useful but not an MOT requirement. I've seen plenty of LED and HID conversions and some aftermarket LED headlamps that give a "torch" beam. This is clearly going to dazzle oncoming drivers and why a cut off is needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 My trucklites are for RHD cars/left side traffic, properly E marked etc, and have a fairly flat beam. There is perhaps a slight kick up to the kerb but its hard to spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I just looked at truck-lites on the Bearmach site - I didn’t immediately realise the price was for 1 light 😯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Nakatenenga had a deal a few years back and they were quite a lot cheaper. Weighed up against new crystal lenses, bulbs, relay setup it was a still a step up to buy the leds but not as bad as the current prices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Anderzander said: I just looked at truck-lites on the Bearmach site - I didn’t immediately realise the price was for 1 light 😯 Yeah, that nearly got me too. Who only needs one headlight ffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, reb78 said: Nakatenenga had a deal a few years back and they were quite a lot cheaper. Weighed up against new crystal lenses, bulbs, relay setup it was a still a step up to buy the leds but not as bad as the current prices. Those were the first gens, as said by others, the second gen are better in a number of ways but still have the black spot in front of the car (which is one reason I don't want to go that way). The other being reported issues with visibility in dusk and some depth perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said: Yeah, that nearly got me too. Who only needs one headlight ffs... For when they inevitably break, even these top quality ones are probably still made in China... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 2020 from china is going to soon meet 1985 v8 90. Report soon ! If good ill say...if average I will be honest...If they are carp I'll admit to wasting my money....🤣🤣🙈 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Did you share the link anywhere Nige ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverdrive Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Any update Nige? looking to move to LED in the future and while I like the look of the trucklites I certainly can’t afford them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 12/29/2020 at 9:03 PM, ThreePointFive said: Those were the first gens, as said by others, the second gen are better in a number of ways but still have the black spot in front of the car (which is one reason I don't want to go that way). The other being reported issues with visibility in dusk and some depth perception. I borrowed a 90 with 2nd Generation Trucklights fitted. Initially, I was very impressed with the clarity & brightness even if the beam pattern was a bit odd. However, it was at Dusk/Dawn that I had real problems seeing with them. Driving on narrow country lanes, the depth / detail perception was not good and after half an hour, my eyes were hurting! In pitch darkness, they were pretty good though. I had intended to buy a pair - but driving with them convinced me that the ordinary lights on my 110 were better overall even if not as bright (or 'bling') - and stuck with them instead! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 There's something 'weird' with LED and HID lights in certain lights - especially in dusk, and when the road is damp - it seems to suck all of the light up and makes you think there's something wrong with the headlights... I've been told it's because both LED and HID emit a very narrow range of light colours, whereas a normal bulb emits quite a broad range, so the latter will work better in all conditions, even if not as bright.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I find the slight yellow colour of halogen far, far, easier on the eyes to be honest, I don't think I would switch to any aftermarket LED unit that I have seen yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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