Maverik Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Found this, looked quite interesting... although I couldn't work out quite what it is achiving..... My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&S Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Isn't it just a shiney EGR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazelle Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Looks bling, but one of the most difficult reads I have ever seen (bar a few posts on here!). Snake-oil alert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) On my computer it just says Would you like better throttle response??? without any explanation! Perhaps he has white text on a white background? PS - seems to be working now! Edited October 19, 2010 by rtbarton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I don't even know where to begin explaining why this is so wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy'd Gentry Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 From my experience there are no free lunches. +40bhp and a 15% fuel save? I think I'll just fit Messer's Heath & Robinson's patentet elixier of Land rover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Yup, it's complete bull, it works in the same way as a EGR apart from one massive difference A EGR cuts off the exhaust gases by design on full load as exhaust gases decrease engine power, they have it completely backwards lol but of course the venturi design they found on wikipedia obviously makes the engine defy physics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_s Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 if it's that good, why don't all car manufacturers use them already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 wow, i have never seen such utter bullsh1t in my entire life - its even worse than those magnets!!! you are supposed to put a T piece on the pipe that goes from your sump to the inlet pipework. Firstly this is not strictly exhaust gas, its blowby pressure from the cylinders. If you dont have a worn engine then you get virtually no sump pressure. This is not an EGR valve, that syphons exhaust gas from the exhaust manifold into the inlet. Secondly mixing cold air into this negligable stream of sump gas as it enters the inlet pipework (where its getting mixed with ALOT of clean air) isnt going to make any difference to anything. Thirdly, there is no filter on the metal venturi 'thing', as the sump breather pipe enters the inlet pipe AFTER the air filter. So if it does draw in cold air into the breather pipe and therefore into your engine, it is non filtered air that will damage your engine. Fourthly, this doesnt increase or decrease the volume of sump gases going into the inlet, blowby is blowby - attaching venturis etc in line with is will not increase this - therefore all its doing is adding unfiltered air and possibly making a silly sucking noise. Fifth, why is it adjustable? Who cares as it isnt doing anything other than adding unfiltered air into your inlet. Or is your cars overall performance directly proportional to the silly sucking noise it makes? Sixth, the ONLY way this could possibly make any difference is if your filter was completely blocked and starving your engine of air. This nicely bypasses your filter chucking in unfiltered air. Although this would probably be negligable as the feed pipe is very thin compared to the inlet pipe. makes you wonder how and why people buy this utter diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Or is your cars overall performance directly proportional to the silly sucking noise it makes? Silly boy - of course it is! Didn't you ever have a Fiesta Turbo? Somebody post a question and ask for a copy of the printout from the dyno please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwyll Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Somebody post a question and ask for a copy of the printout from the dyno please Consider it done Mr BM. I shall keep you all posted as to what, if any, reply comes back. Also, has anyone looked at his other items? He's got venturi generators and fuel magnets listed on there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 makes you wonder how and why people buy this utter diarrhea. That's easy to answer - 95% of the population are really rather thick and gullible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 That's easy to answer - 95% of the population are really rather thick and gullible. And to prove it The first time I saw one of these I fell about laughing! Amazingly, they seem to sell though. Once I get bored of making useful stuff - I'll turn my lathe to making psychic phased array resonators instead! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazelle Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 And to prove it To misquote the advert only slightly :; Hand-Made by a Master Sham man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Si, you'll probably make more money making useless tat you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty_32 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 And his fuel consumption tests are done on the road.......if its that impressive use a rolling road emissions dyno. If I did fuel consumption tests on the road I would be able to prove that eating mars bars give you a 15% fuel economy benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty_32 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Oh and also, I'm pretty sure you can't get supersonic flow through a con-di nozzle, they choke when it reaches Mach 1 (I'm an aeronautical engineering student so if I have this wrong I must have fallen asleep during that part ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 If you had supersonic flow through an engine air intake it would be hell of a noisy They spent ages figuring out how to stop air going supersonic on Concorde's engines on the basis it blew the engine up so I doubt that it is a good thing on a diesel either Still waiting for the dyno graph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I've asked him if it will work on my Electric Freelander?! Sounds ideal to me! Thing is - it's the seller who gets the last laugh. He will of course know what bull it is - but so long as people click that button, he's laughing! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Are there jet streams in astrophysics ? This looks too good to miss, do they do a forum discount ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Have a look at this from the same seller - it has a laughable misrepresentation of how jet engines (turbofans at least) work "If you look at a jet engine, it has some large fans in front of the air intake, called turbines, that spin to compress the incoming air, using just the velocity of the incoming air to turn the blade" Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Link didn't work for me - this is the item number 190448629664 He seems to forget that to get more power with a turbo you need to increase the fuelling. I like the bit that says "Stop Highway Robbery!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Should have been this - Don't know how the link got corrupted! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Isn't that just a fan that is spun by the intake charge? Surely all that can do is take energy from the air to spin the thing, the laws of physics don't allow the air to generate energy from no-where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Isn't that just a fan that is spun by the intake charge? Surely all that can do is take energy from the air to spin the thing, the laws of physics don't allow the air to generate energy from no-where Ahh, but this is being sold on Ebay... the laws of physics obviously don't apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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