Happyoldgit Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Nonimouse said: 1948 GM Cabover That would be impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Or something like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194924725775? With £300k to do it up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Well, I think it is wonderful. Not a great use of space, not hugely practical, ultra-vulnerable to panel damage and not even remotely discrete but it's a custom Land Rover with considerable workmanship behind it and it stands out as fairly classy, if you like that sort of thing (lots of people really do). The classic Land Rover (Series One to Puma) are versatile vehicles and this showcases that versatility well. It also shows how much people value the things in a money-centred world but, otherwise, hats off to them. Not sure about the upholstered/carpeted dash, mind you! No, it's not really for me. Too vulnerable. For that money, I'd be building a camper on a Unimog or, even better, a Russian six wheel drive Ural or similar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 21 hours ago, Anderzander said: Or something like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194924725775? With £300k to do it up ? Just no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 It’s ugly too - but it’s more capable than the defender, newer, aircon, more space ? 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Anderzander said: It’s ugly too - but it’s more capable than the defender, newer, aircon, more space ? 😀 No, no and no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 5:58 PM, Anderzander said: What else would £350k buy you in the camper world ? Quite a thing I would think … https://earthroamer.com/pre-roamed/pre-roamed-118/ would buy you one of these, can't argue that you would be getting more for your money! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 14 hours ago, Anderzander said: It’s ugly too - but it’s more capable than the defender, newer, aircon, more space ? 😀 Mogs & trucks (and that earth-roamer thing) are huge ponderous beasties, I don't understand the obsession with building campers on them as they're not going to take you very far off the beaten track unless you have a friend or two who's ALSO driving one and able to recover you. May as well throw a decent winch on the front of a normal commercial truck and a set of chunky tyres, save a ton of money, have far easier parts & servicing and save a huge pile of money. Having driven our ambulance camper off-road more than many, although it's very capable there's not much you can do about the height, length, or centre of gravity or the fact that rough terrain really shakes up the beers in the fridge - and at least the 130 is recoverable by other nearby 4x4's... get a big mog or even bigger truck stuck and you're into needing some serious help. My current ideal platform for a camper truck is an 8x4 quarry truck with a good HIAB and demountable camper box. A common and solid platform, decent clearance / low ground pressure, and the HIAB makes it very versatile / helps with sticky situations. More than capable of traversing the odd gravel road or muddy field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I see your rubbish campers and I offer you this gem from a year ago. Annoyingly, it's probably more practical than most other suggestions.... But look at it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, ThreePointFive said: But look at it. I can’t I can’t !!! 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ThreePointFive said: Annoyingly, it's probably more practical than most other suggestions.... But look at it. A build like this is where you have to step back & ask what exactly are you trying to achieve - because the thing is so over-laden and huge that any off-road ability has basically disappeared... at which point you have to ask why a bone stock 7.5 or 17.5 tonner wouldn't do the same job better, cheaper, more comfortably and likely a lot more efficiently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonimouse Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Mogs & trucks (and that earth-roamer thing) are huge ponderous beasties, I don't understand the obsession with building campers on them as they're not going to take you very far off the beaten track unless you have a friend or two who's ALSO driving one and able to recover you. May as well throw a decent winch on the front of a normal commercial truck and a set of chunky tyres, save a ton of money, have far easier parts & servicing and save a huge pile of money. Having driven our ambulance camper off-road more than many, although it's very capable there's not much you can do about the height, length, or centre of gravity or the fact that rough terrain really shakes up the beers in the fridge - and at least the 130 is recoverable by other nearby 4x4's... get a big mog or even bigger truck stuck and you're into needing some serious help. My current ideal platform for a camper truck is an 8x4 quarry truck with a good HIAB and demountable camper box. A common and solid platform, decent clearance / low ground pressure, and the HIAB makes it very versatile / helps with sticky situations. More than capable of traversing the odd gravel road or muddy field. New mogs are also quite problematic - especially the gearboxes. They also have annoying electrical niggles. I really fancy a T25 Syncro, in Scandanavian spec, with a pop top and no rust, fitted with a 1.9PD Tdi. That would be perfect as a camper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Mogs & trucks (and that earth-roamer thing) are huge ponderous beasties, I don't understand the obsession with building campers on them as they're not going to take you very far off the beaten track unless you have a friend or two who's ALSO driving one and able to recover you. May as well throw a decent winch on the front of a normal commercial truck and a set of chunky tyres, save a ton of money, have far easier parts & servicing and save a huge pile of money. I get your point but I guess it depends where you are planning to go in the world and what you are trying to achieve. I know those earth roamers are stupid money (but then the quality does look good too) but in the states the availability of F series Ford parts will trump everything else so it makes perfect sense to start there. If you were going to cross Africa then an F series would be a terrible choice as I suspect most people will never have even seen one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Been there (briefly) and done that, honestly was quite unimpressed by the F350 super-doody and would still probably choose a regular van or box truck unless I knew I would be driving actual 4x4 trails. For a 6.8 litre petrol V10 it had all the get up & go of a 2.25NA - but the MPG sure was worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I believe mine is the best of the campers but i'm biased 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) Having spent far to much time looking at this over lock downs, my money would go on an early or the military spec 4x4 iveco daily. The wife had a 2wd one for a while, it was big enough without being cumbersome and iveco dealers are everywhere. https://images.app.goo.gl/ihSkB3MaAVT4pBmU6 Mike Edited July 23, 2022 by miketomcat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Been there (briefly) and done that, honestly was quite unimpressed by the F350 super-doody and would still probably choose a regular van or box truck unless I knew I would be driving actual 4x4 trails. For a 6.8 litre petrol V10 it had all the get up & go of a 2.25NA - but the MPG sure was worse! The 6.7 v8 diesel in the new ones are nothing like those old v10 petrol. They are mega! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 4 hours ago, L19MUD said: The 6.7 v8 diesel in the new ones are nothing like those old v10 petrol. They are mega! Maybe so - but what's a big bus like that gaining you over an actual bus or truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 One problem with and actual bus or truck, is traction. They are so easy to get stuck on flat, loose or slippery surfaces, let alone off road or any sort of hill. Even with better tyres they are not much better. I have a Unimog 406 with a hulking great crane on the back, so its very top heavy and somewhat "disconcerting" But even if I took that off and turned it into a camper, why would you, at about 12 to 14 mpg ? Couldnt afford to go anywhere ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 15 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Maybe so - but what's a big bus like that gaining you over an actual bus or truck? Traction, ground clearance, comfort My old 7.5 ton Iveco would get stuck anywhere and it had a decent set of more agressive drive tyres. The challenge truck had to pull it out of many a field after a day's competing In the states an F350 makes a great base for a camper. A nice environment to be in, enough power, ability to explore without worrying about getting stuck and parts easily obtained everywhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 3:38 PM, FridgeFreezer said: A build like this is where you have to step back & ask what exactly are you trying to achieve - because the thing is so over-laden and huge that any off-road ability has basically disappeared... at which point you have to ask why a bone stock 7.5 or 17.5 tonner wouldn't do the same job better, cheaper, more comfortably and likely a lot more efficiently. Yep. All they achieved there was the worst of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Snagger said: Yep. All they achieved there was the worst of both worlds. A bit like a trike. Take the worst part of a motorcycle, the fact that your in the open air in all weathers and combine the worse part of a car, ie you can't lean the damn thing down and corner with a smile. You end up with a motorcycle that feels like a car and behaves like one and you get cold and wet. Madness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Some strange negativity here. I've seen large four wheel drive campers (and buses on the same chassis) in Australia successfully taking on some surprisingly hard terrain. I've also seen single axle buses and horse trucks embarrassingly stuck in mildly wet fields. If you want to explore the planet and get into some more remote locations with a vehicle that is big enough to provide long-term living space, it's a no-brainer you'd look for something with more traction and ground clearance than a bus! I know. I lived in a bus for four years and poked it into some very gnarly places and the limitations were severe - and that was only five tons and had old fashioned mild overhangs. In 2004, I did nearly 20,000 miles criss-crossing Australian deserts in a Range Rover. The vehicle was excellent for the terrain I encountered but the living accommodation had me endlessly looking at larger campers that had made it to at least some of the same spots. The one in the original post would probably fare quite well (if build quality matched the price!). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 For those of you with Facebook, this just popped up. I'd definitely like to put a camper on something like this Russian Kamaz: https://fb.watch/etibRLbPpV/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Just junk videos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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